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    MM: Erbert and Gerbert’s Closes, New DeKalb Cities Gathering Support, and What Kind of Craft Beer Drinker are You?

    Decatur Metro | June 12, 2013

    • Erbert and Gerbert’s Closes [Patch]
    • Support for new DeKalb cities gathering steam [MANA]
    • Questions about property taxes prompt DeKalb to postpone setting tax rate [AJC]
    • Whiskey distillery coming to Kennesaw [AJC]
    • Giant rubber duck migrating to Pittsburgh [Atlantic Cities]
    • 10 Types of Craft Beer Drinkers [Literature and Libation]

    Map courtesy of MANA website

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    24 Responses to “MM: Erbert and Gerbert’s Closes, New DeKalb Cities Gathering Support, and What Kind of Craft Beer Drinker are You?”

    1. Sheep Dog says:
      June 12, 2013 at 9:23 am

      http://thedecaturminute.com/2013/06/07/pedestrian-crosswalk-education-initiative/

      I saw this on The Decatur Minute and remembered the post on DM a few weeks back about drivers being stopped. Looks like the pedestrians have gotten their turn too.

      • Decatur Metro says:
        June 12, 2013 at 9:47 am

        oooh! That needs its own post!

      • ant1 says:
        June 12, 2013 at 4:42 pm

        we don’t need no education.

    2. At Home in Decatur says:
      June 12, 2013 at 9:52 am

      Re Erbert and Gerbert: We liked it but it didn’t seem like a great location for a restaurant.

      • Keith F says:
        June 12, 2013 at 10:08 am

        It was okay, but the best part was they had a Coke Freestyle machine.

      • JC says:
        June 13, 2013 at 10:21 am

        Yeah, I went out of my way to eat there once. It was okay, but not special enough for me to bypass all the choices in downtown Decatur.

    3. Michael says:
      June 12, 2013 at 10:02 am

      Wow, if that map comes to pass, my house will be in three jurisdictions! Will I have to pay tax to Lakeside, Decatur and the county? Also, they seem to be a little grabby with the city of Tucker, don’t they?

      • Warren Buffett says:
        June 12, 2013 at 10:19 am

        You can’t live in two cities at once – humanly impossible.

        • Steve says:
          June 12, 2013 at 10:49 am

          Yes you can. There are a few folks on the edges of Decatur whose lots are partially in the City and partially in the County.

          • Warren Buffett says:
            June 12, 2013 at 11:16 am

            No you can’t (live in two cities at once). The County is not a city. We live in DeKalb County, and we might live in a city – Decatur, for example. But you can’t live in two cities – Decatur and Avondale Estates for example, at the same time. Therefore, this map will not be able to become reality, as is. The parts where the proposed cities intermingle will have to go to one or the other, or to no one at all – in which case they would stay in unincorporated DeKalb County.

            • Warren Buffett says:
              June 12, 2013 at 11:23 am

              Yes, your lot could be in two cities at once – that is humanly possible, if the city limit line splits your lot – but one spot can’t physically be in two cities.

              • Steve says:
                June 12, 2013 at 11:44 am

                But you can pay taxes to two jurisdictions – full Decatur tax for the part that’s there and full DeKalb tax (not the inside COD millage rate) to the County for part that lies in the County.

                • Warren Buffett says:
                  June 12, 2013 at 11:49 am

                  But back to my response to Michael – one spot of land would never pay taxes to two cities at once. Two jurisdictions (city and county), yes, not two cities.

                  • Michael says:
                    June 12, 2013 at 6:36 pm

                    O great wizard of Omaha: my house is indeed one of those straddling the city line. If the Lakeside initiative comes to pass, my front yard and first 25 feet of my house would be in Briarcliff, while the majority of my house would be in Decatur. Wouldn’t I then be liable for taxes in two municipalities, as well as county taxes?

                    • Rival says:
                      June 12, 2013 at 8:29 pm

                      Don’t trust the lines on the map. With the tools today it’s unlikely that a city would split a lot of record. A new city would rather follow the right-of-way or property lines. I very much doubt you’d have a split lot whatever new city arises.

                    • Warren Buffett says:
                      June 13, 2013 at 12:06 pm

                      Part of what I’m saying is that the map could never actually be like that – as it has overlapping city limits – which is not possible. Briarcliff and Lakeside would need to sort out who gets what. As would Lakeside and Tucker.

                      Also Lakeside doesn’t touch Decatur, as shown. Briarcliff does, right? So I do suppose that if the city limits split your property in half you would be liable to each, plus the county.

      • Betsy Parks says:
        June 12, 2013 at 10:29 am

        Michael- There is no such thing as the City of Tucker yet. This area’s proposed city map claims Northlake, all areas outside the perimeter above 78 even above I85, Smoke Rise and parts of Stone Mountain as East Ponce is the southern boundary. To me it is quite the grab and it is not shown on the map. According to Tucker Together they have not decided if city hood is even the way they wan to go. No one except Lakeside has (as far as I can tell) released any reports of fundraising efforts. I understand the LCA has almost finished raising the 30K!

      • Jeff says:
        June 12, 2013 at 12:02 pm

        “Also, they seem to be a little grabby with the city of Tucker, don’t they?”

        There is no city of Tucker. Tucker is unincorporated, but I agree they are trying to grab the wealthiest areas of Tucker (Midvale, Henderson Road area, Livsey) into their proposed cities. I’m not sure if it’s shameful or shameless, or both, but it’s greedy and destructive either way.

    4. Jeff says:
      June 12, 2013 at 12:04 pm

      From the AJC tax article: “Nearly two-thirds of property tax appraisals hitting mailboxes across DeKalb County show homes worth the exact same as last year.”

      Not mine. Mine doubled.

    5. AMB says:
      June 12, 2013 at 12:39 pm

      So, how much time have you wasted lately clicking on AJC links only to find the article behind their new paywall?

      • Bobby says:
        June 12, 2013 at 4:44 pm

        none

        After years of self-neglect it has severed its own right arm.

        • At Home in Decatur says:
          June 13, 2013 at 12:46 pm

          But isn’t this what all newspapers are doing now? You couldn’t get into the Boston Globe or surrounding area newspapers except for a brief period after the Marathon bombings. The New York Times only allows a few free visits per month.

          • Bobby says:
            June 13, 2013 at 5:02 pm

            A few may succeed using a freemium model, but you might label the rest as lemmings.

            Without premium content (as judged by the consumer), weak pay-walls are a big gamble only to slow the decline, but it’s appropriate for an industry that has spent nearly two decades whining instead of moving up the value chain and/or widening its footing. (Arguably Cox has tried these with limited success.)

            When AJC announced its paywall, I expected lots of discussion. I interpret the calm as a bad sign.

            Separate thread?

    6. David says:
      June 13, 2013 at 5:34 am

      I always feel bad seeing a business close. We went to E&G a few times. Not bad, but to be honest, for the same price we could eat at Taqueria del Sol or similar.

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