As Steve just commented, Fox5 did a story this evening on the recent Glendale and Ridgeland robberies and assaults and interviewed both police and the elderly man that was attacked on Ridgeland.
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Fox News- ‘fair and balanced reporting’ for the anxious masses.
I saw them set up downtown today. Wanted to run them out.
http://www.outfoxed.org/
This was Fox 5/WAGA TV.. the local station that has been around for 60 years.. not the Fox News Channel cable outfit that has the ‘fair and balanced’ slogan. Please try to get your facts straight, Rick.
Agreed, jacketfan. The local Fox outlet has a connection in name only. They use very little Fox national feed and, IMHO, are the best Atlanta TV news outlet. The Ga Association of Broadcasters must agree, too, because they just got the Station of the Year award.
Interesting marketing campaign for the Atlanta gun show this month.
Make an example of a liberal unarmed neighborhood on faux snooze. Subtext: “See what happens when you librul peaceniks don’t carry?”
I wonder if the Atlanta Gun show is a Faux ad buyer?
Ridge – I’m not sure I understand your comments about gun shows, but I would like to take the opportunity to talk about them. DM, I know you’re not too keen on conversations that inevitably move to the topic of guns, so…my apologies.
I often attend gun shows because I enjoy the sport of target shooting. At a gun show, you see a large cross-section of American society; young, old, black, white, Hispanic, male, female, skinny, fat, Democrat, Republican, Independent, Libertarian…I could go on. In fact, we’re not a very exciting group. We just happen to be interested in a hobby/sport that is controversial.
During one of the shows I attended, I had the opportunity to speak to a law enforcement officer about the shows. He pointed to the attendees and told me (and I’m trying to quote him as exactly as possible), “these are NOT the people I worry about. It’s the ones who AREN’T here that worry me.” The point he was making is that those who go to gun shows are the ones who understand the implications and responsibilities of gun ownership.
While I agree there is a “nutcase factor” in a certain percentage of gun owners (as can be found in ANY group of people with a common interest), I think you would find most of us are pretty decent people.
I have to agree with you Eric, however, sometimes responsible gun owners leave their houses and get burglarized, their guns stolen, and then the criminals get their hands on them. That’s what bothers me–we should all go back to fist fighting.
I think this recently happened on Coventry Rd — someone’s gun collection was stolen in a burglary… it was recent (Dec 08)
Can’t argue with that, W. Incidents like this make it even more important for the owner to protect those weapons as much as humanly possible. Going back to fists and sticks would be optimal, but I’m afraid that those days are long gone, never to return.
Jacketfan61
You are incorrect about WAGA.
WAGA is wholly owned and operated by Newscorp and its motives should always be suspected.
Regarding Fox news coverage. The Decatur story is classic Roger Ailes “keep the folks scared, angry and conservative” philosophy.
Hi Eric,
I’m so glad your new police friend has the psychic ability to tell good people from bad people by looking at them. I find that belief in one’s own supernatural powers are so important in an armed sworn official. I’m sure he would be able to stop any bad people from entering a gun show and making any purchases. (how?)
But in case he’s off duty or something, we’ve enacted laws to check on potential gun purchases to keep them away from bad people that we know about or people who may be temporarily angry enough to do harm. Gun shows evolved as a way to circumvent these laws.
Ridge,
I was just using that conversation with the LEO as an example to show that there really is such thing as a responsible gun owner (as most of us are). I believed (naively, as it turns out), that I could post something that was informative, and politically and culturally neutral. I never claimed he was psychic and could automatically tell “good” people from “bad” people. I just wanted to post what I thought to be an interesting perspective from someone who carries a gun as part of his job, and who deals with a large variety of people every day.
It’s apparent from your comments that strict gun control is important to you. I respect (and even understand) your position, and I would never try to force you to change your thinking. But in return, I ask for you to be open-minded about those of us who may have different views.
Eric;
Thanks for a thoughtful and well written thread. In fact, your characterization of ‘gun folks’ maps to my experience. I have found them to be a very diverse and sensible crowd.
It is a fact that guns stolen from good people are used in crimes. It would be fallacious reasoning to draw from that fact the conclusion that one should not own a gun. There is much more data to consider, and other perhaps more sensible , conclusions to be drawn.
I’m sure it is not fallacious to know that a gun stolen from my house will never be used in a crime.
How is it that robberies on Sunday and Monday occur over a four day period?
God, you liberals are really pathetic.
Interesting insight. Riveting.
Behind enemy lines? Let me guess, a self -proclaimed conservative that lives in a hotbed of commie liberalism.
That’s pretty sad that you view fellow citizens as your enemy–and kind of scary.
I come to this blog for information regarding Decatur and DM, thank you for providing this outlet. Unfortunately too often I end up having to sift through the childish, left-wing, knee-jerk comments just to get to what is relevant. Like a broken record….
Guns= Bad Unarmed Citizens=Good
Democrats=Good Republicans=Bad
CNN=Good Fox News=Bad
Liberal=Educated Conservative=Dumb
Georgia/Alabama/Miss.=Backward Massachusetts/California/Minnesota=Progressive
State Government=Bad Decatur City Government=Good
MARTA=Good Cars=Bad
Jeff, W.Gibbets, and Ridge believe it or not, some of us don’t care to hear your political take on a non-political issues.
“God, you liberals are really pathetic.”
You’re right. The comments section would be better off without childish, knee-jerk comments. BTW, your poop stinks.
Behind Enemy Lines says:
June 11, 2009 at 8:34 am
God, you liberals are really pathetic.
Seems like you fit in just fine here.
Blogs are always going to be a mixture of genuine information and random comments–that’s the informative and entertaining aspect of blogging. You don’t have to read what you consider childish posts–just like you don’t have to post knee-jerk, political statements on non-political issues.
Signed:
I’m-not-your-enemy-if-you-don’t-think-I-am
I have never made a political statement on this website.
Jeff – it’s the pink avatar/symbol that he’s referring to I believe. You commie.
One too many times with the insulting over-generalizations Rick. You’re comments are now being moderated.
Behind Enemy Lines…no need to fall into the same trap.
Wow, Rick, it must have a doozy; too bad we can’t read it.
It wasn’t a doozy. You can still see his comment. This is an issue of repeated insults as opposed to one particularly nasty attack.
And again, I’m not trying to protect anyone’s feelings…I’m really protecting the conversation and the site.
There are a lot of people here that don’t comment anywhere else online and part of it is because we all have a communal tie and therefore care more about what each other thinks (as opposed to some random jerk on the web). But the other reason is because people feel more comfortable in expressing their opinion without being shot down by someone with an online vendetta against everything.
Also, insulting comments add nothing to the conversation and serve to steer it off track. Then the blog quickly becomes a determent to a community as opposed to an asset.
DM, I know the job ain’t easy – thanks for all you do.
You’re right DM, I was just razzing Rick a little–not taking a dig at what you do.
I didn’t think you were taking a dig W. I was just taking the opportunity to explain the theory behind “moderation” again.
What if the insulting comments are directed towards a large multinational firm or loathsome public officials?
Example (for discussion purposes only): “Chief Bolton is a real t-t…”
It’s not always a left-right divide… sometimes we can all agree on an insult.
Indeed Russ. Most of the time I only moderate personal insults. Ones directed toward public figures and corporations/governments, etc…are usually OK.
But some group insults also act as personal insults.
Lord, whoever thought I would spend so much time classifying insults. Must sound so weird to everyone else.
Decatur Metro’s boards would be a lot less entertaining without the random conservative poking a finger in our rose-colored glasses. Just saying.
See, that’s what I’ve been saying!
As a person who had a close friend murdered by a thug with a stolen hand gun, I will say I hate all hand guns and look forward to the day they are banned and confiscated.
I too have had a relative killed by a handgun and a close friend held at gunpoint during a robbery. Like you said, when the guns are banned and confiscated, hopefully we will no longer have individual people being manipulated by these objects and forced by the object to pull the triggers. The projectiles inside the guns have forced countless individuals to hold, and manipulate, the guns to carryout the wills of the objects. Once the assault by the object is complete, the objects have demanded the individuals pick up the fruits the object’s provided in the form of money, televisions, and in some cases, food.
When the court system is blinded by the objects and the guns are set free to manipulate more individuals, it angers me to see the innocent individuals being sentenced to DAYS, WEEKS, or in the most extreme cases MONTHS in jail.
In keeping with your suggestion, if all hand guns were banned and confiscated, we could let the objects run free on a deserted island somewhere away from humanity. Ultimately, the salty air could rust the guns, and they could suffer the slow, agonizing pain that we feel as we miss our loved ones and fear for our friends.
With all the guns abolished from the United States, we could move forth as innocent individuals in society free from the wills of guns.
Until then, I’ll keep my gun in a sound proof, padded room with a lock, in an undisclosed location, so as not to be able to manipulate me into harming a family member or friend.
Read closely. I didn’t say “ban all guns”. I guess I have no issue with rifles. You just use those to murder animals, right. That’s a fun sport. I just don’t see the need for a hand gun.
Let’s see, this post is very verbose version of the NRA axiom, “Guns don’t kill people–people kill people.” Which is just like saying, tornadoes don’t kill people–it’s the high winds, flying debris, and falling houses that kill people. Or, it’s not the fall from a building that kills people–it’s the sudden stop.
I’ll admit the problem with guns is with the people who wield them, but without guns I’m pretty sure people would be unable to shoot each other, just like without tornadoes people wouldn’t die from high winds, flying debris, and falling houses, or if people could just float away then they would not experience that sudden stop after falling off a building.
I like that analogy. I’ve always found the logic in “Guns don’t kill people. People kill people” faulty but couldn’t put my figure on why. The ER diagnosis or death certificate cause of death don’t say “people-caused wound to the head”, they say “gunshot wound to the head”. Guns DO kill people with a fairly high level of efficacy. People alone are not quite as effective.
In the interest of saving everyone’s sanity, I vote we put a stop to the discussion of guns in this post. While much of what is said on both sides has its merits, no one is going to change anyone else’s mind through a blog discussion.
So to use a tired old cliche’ let’s agree to disagree on the subject of guns and gun control, and move on to a more important topic. For example, how are we all going to survive the next five days without DM?
Agreed.
Eric
After reading many of your posts I wasn’t sure what to think about you, but I am now convinced that you are a wise and noble individual. Thank you for your efforts to move us to the higher ground. W. Gibbets – still not sure about you.
Thank you, GAK! I really appreciate the compliment. I admit to getting carried away on some of the other posts, so I’m trying to put more thought and less emotion in my comments. Getting other people’s hackles up serves no one.
Sometimes I feel like a lone voice in the woods, with being a right-leaning moderate (but definitely NOT a Rush Limbaugh conservative) in a sea of liberalism, but you know what? That’s OK. We can still cheerfully, and without rancor, disagree on some things.
I look forward to further discussion on future posts.
P.S. Take it easy on W. Gibbets. He and I have become friends.
Apparently you have only selectively read my posts–to get a full understanding of my milieu you must begin reading my posts from 2003 and carefully scrutinize my ingenious usages and themes. Read them all twice if you have to.
(Joke)
Cheers Eric, oh and, where’s Slappy when you really need him?
You guys are kind of making me queasy with this cloying exhbition of a group hug… If I didn’t know better, I’d say that Eric has not only baited the liberals, but has succesfully set the hook and reeled you two in. And, now you’re both floppin around in the bottom of the boat confusing diminshing consiousness with some kind of banal camaraderie.
It’s disgusting!
See, the Slapster always comes though with his usual circumlocution and confabulation.
DARN! My evil plan has been discovered!
Can you guys hold on while I call Fox News and try to come up with an alternate?
Also, since Slappy is to blame for outing me, I need to figure out a way to get him (her?) transferred to Gitmo.
Sad thing is I’ve seen the perps walking around near Commerce and Howard close to the projects last Tuesday night. They were still wearing the same outfits as when they committed the crimes.
Did you inform the police? If so, good. If not, shame on you.
Is this tongue-in-cheek? The police sketch showed only head views. The descriptions were that one had green plaid shorts and the other had a white tank top on. You saw torso-less perps or one topless and one bottomless perp?
If serious, did you let the police know? Perps who hang around or live in Decatur are more worrisome than perps who come in, commit a crime, and then leave for other pastures.