Thanks for sharing – this is about the Georgia case of Troy Davis – http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/troy-davis-finality-over-fairness/page.do?id=1011343
crazy. i found out the other day a dude i went to highschool with in savannah lives in kingsport now. I bring carloads of Dr Enuf back everytime I go up there.
You might be surprised who’s wrongfully in jail if you look at individual cases like this one. I can only hope that he will be released soon, in the name of justice. Jared, I put the link to the petition on my Facebook page.
Citizens don’t want to believe innocent people are on death row, but it’s happening. Relevant piece on the same topic from a couple of days ago actually.
“I’ve been free since 2003, exonerated after evidence covered up by prosecutors surfaced just weeks before my execution date…Of the six men one of my prosecutors got sentenced to death, five eventually had their convictions reversed because of prosecutorial misconduct.”
The Prosecution Rests, but I Can’t
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/opinion/10thompson.html?pagewanted=1
Agreed. I’m anti-death penalty in all cases and don’t believe Troy Davis or anyone should be put to death. That said, Troy Davis is a criminal, shot two people and killed a cop. No amount of spin or conspiracy theory will change that.
Keith, what’s that based on? There was no physical evidence that tied Davis to the crime; seven of nine eyewitnesses changed testimony/recanted, the eight could not identify the shooter in pre-trial, and the ninth was identified by three other people as the shooter.
One of many fundamental problems of the death penalty is that if you get it wrong, you can’t fix it. Read about the Cantu or Willingham cases.
Again, I do not believe in the death penalty and I’m well aware if it’s finality.
Regarding the no physical evidence and the recantations, most if that is BS and part of the spin, in my opinion. One account (of many) that I believe is closer to the truth tells of the evidence, sheds light on those “recanting” and is told from someone closer to the facts. These are just some of the reasons why I think it continues to be upheld each time it goes back to court. The other thing that is especially interesting to me are those who try to clear Davis try to put the blame on some other guy (who is likely just as evil, but not guilty of this crime) who doesn’t have any of the evidence against him that Davis does.
Troy Davis is a criminal. One thing the spinners like to forget is that in addition to the cop he killed, he also shot another guy in the face. I don’t believe he should be put to death, but I think he’s behind bars for all the right reasons and should stay there. Those who spray paint “Troy could be any one of us” are exactly right…but only because those with the spray paint are also criminals.
The reason it keeps being upheld is because once you’ve been convicted, innocence must be proven which is almost impossible without DNA evidence. Furthermore, there are procedural hurdles that come into play – there has been evidence in this case not considered because of the order it was presented, the lack of a notary stamp, etc. In fact, for the recent hearing, the evidence not only had to prove innocence entirely, but it also had to be 100% proven that it wasn’t available during the trial in the first place.
Troy supporters don’t say that he is innocent, or that Coles (the other guy) is guilty. What they say is that no one knows except the two of them. And frankly, you don’t know either. The earlier shootings have also not been directly tied to Davis, and Coles was there too. But Coles pointed to Davis, the police ran with that story, and ever since, have moved forward on the execution regardless of concerns about doubt.
I didn’t think this was about troy davis, esp as this was not in GA. I assume it’s one of the nerds who left the store across the street. I can say this as i’m a nerd too. Next time i’m in kingsport I’ll ask the guys at the comic store if they know who did it/what exactly it’s about.
Thanks for sharing – this is about the Georgia case of Troy Davis – http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/troy-davis-finality-over-fairness/page.do?id=1011343
OMG, I grew up in Kingsport!! JB, let’s be friends!
crazy. i found out the other day a dude i went to highschool with in savannah lives in kingsport now. I bring carloads of Dr Enuf back everytime I go up there.
I grew up in Kingsport, too! We are everywhere.
I knew he was a criminal, but I didn’t know Troy Davis was a tagger.
You might be surprised who’s wrongfully in jail if you look at individual cases like this one. I can only hope that he will be released soon, in the name of justice. Jared, I put the link to the petition on my Facebook page.
Thanks, Chira for the link!
Citizens don’t want to believe innocent people are on death row, but it’s happening. Relevant piece on the same topic from a couple of days ago actually.
“I’ve been free since 2003, exonerated after evidence covered up by prosecutors surfaced just weeks before my execution date…Of the six men one of my prosecutors got sentenced to death, five eventually had their convictions reversed because of prosecutorial misconduct.”
The Prosecution Rests, but I Can’t
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/opinion/10thompson.html?pagewanted=1
No one should face death by the State when there are so many questions about his guilt. That is what is criminal in his case.
Agreed. I’m anti-death penalty in all cases and don’t believe Troy Davis or anyone should be put to death. That said, Troy Davis is a criminal, shot two people and killed a cop. No amount of spin or conspiracy theory will change that.
Keith, what’s that based on? There was no physical evidence that tied Davis to the crime; seven of nine eyewitnesses changed testimony/recanted, the eight could not identify the shooter in pre-trial, and the ninth was identified by three other people as the shooter.
One of many fundamental problems of the death penalty is that if you get it wrong, you can’t fix it. Read about the Cantu or Willingham cases.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grann
Again, I do not believe in the death penalty and I’m well aware if it’s finality.
Regarding the no physical evidence and the recantations, most if that is BS and part of the spin, in my opinion. One account (of many) that I believe is closer to the truth tells of the evidence, sheds light on those “recanting” and is told from someone closer to the facts. These are just some of the reasons why I think it continues to be upheld each time it goes back to court. The other thing that is especially interesting to me are those who try to clear Davis try to put the blame on some other guy (who is likely just as evil, but not guilty of this crime) who doesn’t have any of the evidence against him that Davis does.
Troy Davis is a criminal. One thing the spinners like to forget is that in addition to the cop he killed, he also shot another guy in the face. I don’t believe he should be put to death, but I think he’s behind bars for all the right reasons and should stay there. Those who spray paint “Troy could be any one of us” are exactly right…but only because those with the spray paint are also criminals.
I would post at least one link, but it looks like anything I say with a link does not get posted.
Really? Might be going to spam.
The reason it keeps being upheld is because once you’ve been convicted, innocence must be proven which is almost impossible without DNA evidence. Furthermore, there are procedural hurdles that come into play – there has been evidence in this case not considered because of the order it was presented, the lack of a notary stamp, etc. In fact, for the recent hearing, the evidence not only had to prove innocence entirely, but it also had to be 100% proven that it wasn’t available during the trial in the first place.
Troy supporters don’t say that he is innocent, or that Coles (the other guy) is guilty. What they say is that no one knows except the two of them. And frankly, you don’t know either. The earlier shootings have also not been directly tied to Davis, and Coles was there too. But Coles pointed to Davis, the police ran with that story, and ever since, have moved forward on the execution regardless of concerns about doubt.
I didn’t think this was about troy davis, esp as this was not in GA. I assume it’s one of the nerds who left the store across the street. I can say this as i’m a nerd too. Next time i’m in kingsport I’ll ask the guys at the comic store if they know who did it/what exactly it’s about.