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    Morning Metro: Brookhaven Responds, Different Pizza and Butter Balm

    Decatur Metro | October 18, 2011

    • Brookhaven supporters ticked by proposed study by DeKalb that will delay city-hood [AJC]
    • Man who’s greyhound was killed near library recovering thanks to a new friend [Patch]
    • Romeo’s pizza owner “we totally do a different pizza than Everybody’s.”  [Emory Wheel]
    • Atlantans love the free-market, except when it comes to highways [AJC]
    • The Great Frame Up Opening in Morningside [What Now Atlanta?]
    • The older you are, the more likely that you’re a NIMBY [Atlantic Cities]
    • Paula Deen sells a butter-flavored lip balm [Eater]

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    43 Responses to “Morning Metro: Brookhaven Responds, Different Pizza and Butter Balm”

    1. The Walrus says:
      October 18, 2011 at 10:08 am

      “Atlantans love the free-market”
      ____________________

      Uh, I’m going to has to see some evidence proving this statement; I’m not so sure. ;-)

      • Keith F says:
        October 18, 2011 at 12:54 pm

        It’s a ridiculous headline to begin with. It doesn’t make any sense to me. People are saying…this is too expensive, I would rather drive in stupid-heavy traffic instead of paying the rate you want me to pay. In fact, so many complained, that they have temporarily changed things. That IS the free market.

        • Decatur Metro says:
          October 18, 2011 at 1:52 pm

          Thank goodness I’ve gotten my ridiculous headline vibe back! I was getting so bored with myself.

          That’s one way to look at it. The other is that highway riders prefer a totally subsidized road system as opposed to a pay-as-you-go one.

          • DEM says:
            October 18, 2011 at 3:12 pm

            A pay-as-you-go system set up not by the market, but by the government, which has a monopoly on roads enforced by law.

            • Decatur Metro says:
              October 18, 2011 at 3:18 pm

              I must admit that I stole that observation from another article recently, so I’m still thinking it out. But the government has it’s hands in everything, so should we not call anything with any government involvement “free market”? Or is that only the case with monopolies?

              • DEM says:
                October 18, 2011 at 3:35 pm

                Well I would not go so far as to say anything with government involvement can’t be free market, since, as you say, the leviathan has its claws in almost everything. But roads are a pure public good where it makes little sense to even attempt a private market, which is why we don’t attempt it. Certainly if the government forbids the market to supply roads on a private basis, which it does, it’s not a free market in any sense.

                • Scott says:
                  October 18, 2011 at 4:03 pm

                  Hey, DEM. Can you elaborate on this? I know it’s not the norm but private roads for public use certainly exist. At the upper end, for example, the Dulles Greenway, connecting the airport’s tollway with Leesburg, is used publicly but was built and is operated privately.

                  At the more modest end, it’s a common strategy for developers looking to do ped-friendly projects in places where cities maintain auto-friendly road standards, to treat the roads like public streets but operate them privately, with maintenance falling on the HOA.

                  So I guess it is possible, though I can’t attest to how successful they’ll be over time.

                  • DEM says:
                    October 18, 2011 at 4:18 pm

                    Well I guess I should say I am not totally surprised to hear there are private roads somewhere, though I did not know about the Dulles Greenway. But it seems like they are the great exception. To have a private system of roads writ-large seems almost impossible since eminent domain is usually needed to build them in the first place, and we could never have a private market in the sense that multiple suppliers can each build their own toll road between two desitnations and then compete on the basis of the toll prices. Not to mention that stopping to pay a toll 25 times a day, every time you switch to a new company’s road, would be bothersome, to say the least.

                    But I would love to be wrong about this. If we can get the government out of the road business and have a private network of roads, Id be all for it. Just does not strike me as reasonable except in very isolated circumstances.

                    • Ridgelandistan says:
                      October 19, 2011 at 6:57 am

                      As a stock holder in rail I say, HUZZAH! to you and your brilliant plan.
                      It’s not like there’s any national interest in maintaining common lines of communications and commerce between the states. How does one start up a fiefdom with all that opportunity going on?

          • Keith F says:
            October 18, 2011 at 3:56 pm

            Hah! I thought the headline was the AJC’s…I would have shown more restraint and respect had I realized it was yours!

          • No Decaf says:
            October 18, 2011 at 7:32 pm

            Not to keep after you about your headlines, but at first glance it looks like the library was involved with the dog attack somehow. They’ve had enough problems with the people!

    2. cubalibre says:
      October 18, 2011 at 11:14 am

      Ah, Paula Deen… Why is it I have such a viscerally violent reaction to her every time I see or hear her? I swear, I try not to be a prejudiced person, but she makes me want to run her down with a butter truck! *sigh* Had to get that off my chest.

      • The Walrus says:
        October 18, 2011 at 11:24 am

        How come?

        • cubalibre says:
          October 18, 2011 at 12:28 pm

          Because she’s a huge phony, for one (when I happen across clips of her shows or ads & hear her mewl, “Yawwwwwwwwwllllllll!” in that exaggerated “I’m-from-theSouth-but-I-gotta-make-sure-it’s-crystal-clear-to-all-these Yankees-watchin’-my show” drawl, it’s like nails across a chalkboard). And because her restaurants are tourist traps with beyond-mediocre food, but she somehow has credibility as a “Southern” cook, which simply offends me. I think if the latter didn’t rub me the wrong way so much, I could overlook the former. I know, I know…she’s probably a nice person in real life, she brought herself up out of poverty as a single mom, etc., etc…I just can’t help myself with this one. I can’t even really explain everything about her that bothers me– there’s just something fundamentally “off” about her, something that rubs me the wrong way.

          • DEM says:
            October 18, 2011 at 12:54 pm

            Plus, based on the few times I’ve seen her show, her food is gross.

          • DEM says:
            October 18, 2011 at 1:12 pm

            Also, this:

            http://www.nerve.com/news/current-events/anthony-bourdain-says-paula-deen-is-dangerous-to-america

            • cubalibre says:
              October 18, 2011 at 1:19 pm

              I’d heard about that kerfufle– I have my own disdain for Monsieur Bordain, for different reasons (principal amongst them is that he enjoys being a tool simply for publicity’s sake, even if he is often spot on about the food he talks about).

            • smalltowngal says:
              October 18, 2011 at 1:22 pm

              Now, see? My typical reaction to comments like that would be, “She may be a big phoney, but she’s OUR big phoney, so you sit down and be quiet, Mr. Bourdain Man!” But when he talks like that about Paula? Nothing. I couldn’t care less.

            • Decatur Metro says:
              October 18, 2011 at 1:49 pm

              I love Anthony Bourdain. He knows how to work the system and admits to all of his own flaws and short-comings up front.

              • Keith F says:
                October 18, 2011 at 2:04 pm

                I’m reading his “Kitchen Confidential” right now and it makes you want to never go out to eat again while at the same time making you want to go out all the time….except on Mondays for the fish special!

              • Keith F says:
                October 18, 2011 at 2:08 pm

                Oh, and also, as I’m reading his book it feel a bit like “A Million Little Pieces.” You say he admits to all his flaws, but reading it I think it sounds like he admits to a lot more than he’s ever really done. If Paula is building a persona, so is Bourdain. He’s just playing the bad boy to her little miss sunshine.

          • smalltowngal says:
            October 18, 2011 at 1:18 pm

            Right there with you, Cuba. IMO Paula Deen is to Southern cuisine as Captain D’s is to quality seafood…as Taco Bell is to Mexican food…as Cheesecake Factory is to fine pastry….in other words, it is what it is, but it ain’t what people act like it is. She turned herself into a cartoon, but she could buy and sell me many times over, I’ll give her that.

            • cubalibre says:
              October 18, 2011 at 1:23 pm

              The best analogies I’ve read yet about her– wish I’d come up with those! And I think you’ve also nailed down one of the things that bother me about her: she’s a cartoon, but people who don’t know any better find her authentic, and expect all things Southern to be like her or her food. Makes me tired!

            • betsy says:
              October 20, 2011 at 7:17 am

              +1

      • Keith F says:
        October 18, 2011 at 12:56 pm

        I love her.

      • BchewyChomp says:
        October 18, 2011 at 2:58 pm

        Isn’t this business about Paula Deen the same phenomenon we see in just about everything public? People want personality, not talent. Tyra Banks has a nove;, actors win elections, etc. Her southernness may be a bit over the top but that’s her thing. I’ve tried some of Deen’s recipes and found them pretty good. Oh, sorry. Y’all just wanted to complain. Please, continue…

    3. Joe says:
      October 18, 2011 at 12:02 pm

      lol, paula deen, While I was born in atlanta, I lived over half my life in Savannah. I’ve never been to Paula Deen’s place. I have seen the hilarious bits about her on SNL tho.
      two of my sisters LOVE her and have all of her books and whatnot, i’ve never gotten it tho.

      However, I can only assume that this lip balm is actually butter in a tube.

      • Cat says:
        October 18, 2011 at 12:11 pm

        As The Handmaid’s Tale taught us, butter is the dystopian moisturizer of choice! Paula’s way more postmodern than she’s given credit for, is all.

    4. anniefannie says:
      October 18, 2011 at 12:26 pm

      all the best to joe & cocoa….so glad they have found each other.

      • AnotherRick says:
        October 18, 2011 at 1:14 pm

        Thay whole story made me cry…in a good way!

        • J_T says:
          October 18, 2011 at 3:09 pm

          Me too. Almost posted under a different name so as not to admit that. I’m a sucker for dogs and dog stories. And old people are OK, too, since they don’t go around squawking about school bells and buses…

          • cubalibre says:
            October 18, 2011 at 3:50 pm

            I love old people– I hope to be one someday! I’m so very glad Joe found a new friend, too. Ain’t love grand?

            I remember when this story broke, I felt terrible for Joe, not only because of what happened to his sweet Oreo, but because I’m the proud “mama” of an American Staffordshire Terrier, and I knew the “bully breed” panic would set in. Sure enough, a bunch of commenters started in demonizing the “bully breed” dogs (e.g., they’re genetically predisposed to viciousness; they shouldn’t be allowed in areas where children are; they ought to be banned; if they’d been banned, this wouldn’t have happened, etc…). The pinnacle of dumb was reached when someone actually disparaged the rescue folks who work with them! Finally, someone relayed their experience with an attack by greyhounds that had double-teamed her small dog (or a friend of hers’– can’t recall which) at a dog park, thus underscoring that no matter what the breed, any dog can “snap” and do damage…

            • The Walrus says:
              October 18, 2011 at 4:08 pm

              You asked for it, so here it goes: I love dogs, I have three. I would absolutely own an AST or other “bully” breed. I also believe that how you raise a dog is very very important with regard to temperament, etc. Having said that, to claim that these breeds are not predisposed to be more dog aggressive than other breeds is simply fantasy.

              • cubalibre says:
                October 18, 2011 at 4:47 pm

                That’s not exactly correct. What people don’t seem to get is that the “bully” breeds are, at their genetic core, terriers– which do tend toward other-dog aggression, but are also highly intelligent & “people” responsive. That means that they can be (and are) successfully trained not to act out on it.

    5. § says:
      October 18, 2011 at 5:09 pm

      re Brookhaven

      • Bobby says:
        October 18, 2011 at 5:23 pm

        (I thought this got lost somewhere.)

      • Bobby says:
        October 18, 2011 at 5:25 pm

        Props to Elena Parent on her remark.

      • cubalibre says:
        October 18, 2011 at 6:00 pm

        So…should we call you “Bobby”, or “Mr. Little Squiggly Section Symbol”? ;-D

        • smalltowngal says:
          October 18, 2011 at 6:24 pm

          that was funnier the second time I read it! are you into happy hour or just punch-drunk ’cause it’s quittin’ time?

        • Bobby says:
          October 18, 2011 at 11:37 pm

          … just toying with an idea. :D And you can call me anything that passes on DM.

    6. Bobby says:
      October 18, 2011 at 5:12 pm

      re NIMBY

      • Bobby says:
        October 18, 2011 at 5:22 pm

        I get the feeling that we will see dialogue increasingly replaced by name calling. I’d rather we address the assertion of personal property rights beyond one’s personal property.

    7. At Home in Decatur says:
      October 19, 2011 at 12:07 pm

      Re Romeo’s pizza: I can see why Everybody’s Pizza would not be happy but pizza by the slice is a whole other experience from a sit-down full menu restaurant. If the slices are fairly cheap, I imagine this will be a big hit with students and families. Now that I think of it, I’m kind of surprised that pizza by the slice has gone drive-through. It’s another entrepreneurial idea that I will never pursue. Maybe the hot tomato sauce and drippy cheese is just too risky for the vehicle setting.

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