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    Morning Metro: Watershed Plans Buckhead Reopening, No CSD Millage Increase Planned, and One Time Hybrid Buyers

    Decatur Metro | April 18, 2012

    • Watershed of Buckhead plans to open May 24th [AJC]
    • CSD meeting about budget today, no millage increase expected [Patch]
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    27 Responses to “Morning Metro: Watershed Plans Buckhead Reopening, No CSD Millage Increase Planned, and One Time Hybrid Buyers”

    1. yippee says:
      April 18, 2012 at 9:50 am

      Have I heard of the Decatur Green Fest before?

    2. Keith F says:
      April 18, 2012 at 12:13 pm

      The payback period is not the only reason for not being a repeat hybrid buyer. Even more importantly for me is how thouroughly bored I am when driving our Prius. It is such a boring car to drive that I’m afraid it will put me to sleep and that just makes it both boring and dangerous!

      • KC Boyce says:
        April 18, 2012 at 1:26 pm

        Agreed. My in-laws have two Prii, and they’re like driving a toaster (actually, a toaster might be more fun to drive). FWIW, the Leaf is only marginally better than the Prius, but the Volt is genuinely fun to drive. I’m holding out for a Tesla, though…

        • Nubbs says:
          April 18, 2012 at 1:58 pm

          You and my husband….we talk about getting a new car and all he will talk about is the Tesla. Will it really that great?

          • KC Boyce says:
            April 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm

            Maybe…if it’s not vaporware. They haven’t let anyone other than their staff drive one, and they’ve yet to start deliveries. But they promise 160-300 mile range (depending on the size of battery you buy) and a great driving experience. So it’s still very much “wait and see”.

            • AMB says:
              April 18, 2012 at 3:51 pm

              It’s the Tesla name. If it was called the Humperdinck, you guys wouldn’t be so excited.

              • JoeBlow says:
                April 18, 2012 at 5:06 pm

                The way it is, that’s the way that it goes. Workin’ in the strangest ways.

          • Brad says:
            April 18, 2012 at 4:48 pm

            I checked out a Fiskar a couple weeks ago — great exterior lines and interior looked sharp to boot. I suppose it better for $125 K. And by ‘checked out’ I mean I drooled over it in the parking lot of a restaurant… Looks like a nice alternative for those of you with a few extra bucks to spend.

        • Keith F says:
          April 18, 2012 at 4:33 pm

          Hmmm. I’ve tried to post this comment twice, but I guess it’s not appreciating the link.

          I’ve never driven a Volt so can’t comment on how fun it is to drive, but I heard Clark Howard last week talking about payback on hybrids on the Volt was horrendous at 27 years!!! How can that be. The Leaf was almost nine years.

          Google: “Clark Howard Volt Payback” for the link.

          • KC Boyce says:
            April 18, 2012 at 10:29 pm

            It all depends on your driving habits & really how much time you’re on electric vs gas. See a deconstruction of the analysis here: http://theenergycollective.com/ken-paulman/81849/chevy-volts-payback-period-really-26-years.

            But I also think the focus on payback is a bit of a red herring…payback on a Mercedes vs a Hyundai is in the “never” range. People buy cars for lots of different reasons & fuel cost is just one of them. If you like the way a Volt (or Leaf, Prius, etc.) looks and drives, then get it. Saving $ Is just a side benefit.

          • KC Boyce says:
            April 18, 2012 at 10:31 pm

            It all depends on your driving habits & really how much time you’re on electric vs gas. See a deconstruction of the analysis at The Energy Collective (similarly, DM doesn’t like my link, but it’s one of the first links if you Google “Volt payback”).

            But I also think the focus on payback is a bit of a red herring…payback on a Mercedes vs a Hyundai is in the “never” range. People buy cars for lots of different reasons & fuel cost is just one of them. If you like the way a Volt (or Leaf, Prius, etc.) looks and drives, then get it. Saving $ Is just a side benefit.

        • David Harris says:
          April 20, 2012 at 1:52 pm

          Even though the Prius gets far better mileage in the city than a diesel, we like our Jetta TDIs. I thoroughly enjoy the driving experience from rowing my own gears, the engaging clackety-clack diesel engine and turbo spooling noise, and the handling from the 4-wheel independent suspension. The small VW TDIs are pretty fun to drive.

          The thing that bugged me about the Prius’ is the CVT. Yes, it’s efficient, but oh-so-boring. The engine immediately revs to the optimal speed and stays there. Not exactly an engaging driving experience. IMHO, if I’m going to be spending significant time driving a car, I want it be half-way enjoyable.

      • Decatur Metro says:
        April 19, 2012 at 7:26 am

        Have you looked at TDIs?

        • David Harris says:
          April 20, 2012 at 2:20 pm

          +1

          I put Koni FSD dampeners and higher rate (lower ground clearance, stiffer) springs on my Jetta TDI and it’s one of the best-handling cars I’ve driven or ridden in – very smooth and comfortable with very little roll, pitch, or under-dampening. In other words, very comfortable for passengers who prefer smooth rides over performance, yet tight enough to handle corners and expansion joints without upsetting the suspension – a near-perfect blend of comfort and performance.

          I can’t imagine having that kind of suspension potential in a hybrid. I can only speak with experience on the Jetta TDIs, but I’m sure the Golf and Audi A3 TDIs are even more fun to drive given their better (less) angular momentum.

    3. Decatur Heights Dad says:
      April 18, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      Decatur may be going football crazy soon. Talk about a full slate of games. Hopefully the football and lacrosse coaches will work together. Those 2 sports can easily go hand-in-hand as they do in Upstate and Central NY and LI.

      • DawgFan says:
        April 18, 2012 at 2:58 pm

        If only the coaches/administration would work with the necessary people to avoid scheduling a game during fall break yet again. It somewhat defeats the purpose of the break for the football players, band members, cheerleaders, etc. I understand the difficulty of making these schedules, but we should be able to scheudle our bye week during the week off.

        • At Home in Decatur says:
          April 18, 2012 at 4:01 pm

          Or we could go back to a more conventional calendar that doesn’t conflict with other areas, work schedules, sports schedules…….. I really doubt that other districts are going to schedule around little us, although there is the possibility that some of them, like DeKalb may also decide to move to a “balanced” calendar.

          • Rach says:
            April 18, 2012 at 4:27 pm

            The weeks off from the draft DeKalb Calendar are different from the Decatur calendar.

      • smith says:
        April 18, 2012 at 9:06 pm

        Leading scorer on DHS boy’s lacrosse team is – you guessed it – RB/LB on football team. Hopefully the new coach is more accepting of football/lacrosse dual sport athletes than his predecessor.

    4. Tom says:
      April 18, 2012 at 3:17 pm

      if people had to pay for the costs of pollution from their cars, you would see a dramatic shift in the economics of hybrids.

      • smalltowngal says:
        April 18, 2012 at 5:35 pm

        You would also see a lot fewer vehicles idling in supermarket parking lots while waiting for somebody to shop. That particular thing drives me crazy.

        • New Scott says:
          April 19, 2012 at 8:24 am

          It’s at least once per week that I glare at someone for going into my son’s PreK while leaving their car idling in the parking lot. Can anyone explain why people do that? Can the inside of your car really get THAT hot or cold in the 5 minutes it takes you to go inside and back? I realize glaring does absolutely nothing to solve the problem so maybe I should just pull myself together and ask the people why they do it.

          • At Home in Decatur says:
            April 19, 2012 at 8:43 am

            Not to mention that it’s not safe to leave the car running if they are leaving it to bring in their child. Isn’t that a traffic violation? I especially don’t like the vibe of unmanned cars idling and generating exhaust in front of a building where young children are running in and out. I would ask the preK administration to prohibit it and to put out signs and announcements plus enforce the prohibition. I know Clairemont used to have a no-idling sign talking about protecting little lungs.

    5. toml says:
      April 18, 2012 at 5:06 pm

      if people had to pay for the costs of pollution from their hybrids, you would see a dramatic shift in the economics of cars.

      • At Home in Decatur says:
        April 19, 2012 at 7:50 am

        It has occurred to me that the future result of the trend towards privatizing everything and charging for each element of services may eventually result in us all having some kind of nanobot monitor assigned that measures our every activity, our every breath, pollution contribution, food ingested, road driven, water consumed, heat and electricity used–not just in the home, but everywhere we go, park used, bike path travelled, teacher minute used by our children, etc. In the end, it will be Big Brother but not Big Brother as government but Big Brother as corporate monitor and creditor. Or will the full circle of Republicans-conservtaives-libertarians-anarchists-radicals-liberals-Democrats-independents-Republicans, etc. unite and object?

        • Individual Rights Zealot says:
          April 19, 2012 at 10:35 am

          It’s already in the works. Senate Bill 1813, Section 3406, sponsored by Barbara Boxer, has already passed the Senate. It requires “black box recorders” in automobiles for 2015 onward but I don’t believe for a minute it will be for Big Brother corporate use only. Although the text of legislation states that such data would remain the property of the owner of the vehicle, the government would have the power to access it in a number of circumstances, including by court order, if the owner consents to make it available, and pursuant to an investigation or inspection conducted by the Secretary of Transportation.

          • Steve says:
            April 19, 2012 at 10:47 am

            Such things already exist are are sometimes used for accident investigations. They are also used by insurance companies to monitor teenage drivers and others who want to get a break on insurance rates.

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