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	<title>Comments on: Morning Metro: Georgia Olive Farmers, Castle History, and DHS at the Woodruff</title>
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		<title>By: Decatur Metro</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/09/26/morning-metro-georgia-olive-farmers-castle-history-and-dhs-at-the-woodruff/#comment-142718</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 01:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still a bit shaken up by the dog in the other thread, but I want to reply before the conversation dies off.  

I&#039;m not sure if burgers and fries are addictive.  What&#039;s the line between &quot;I like that&quot; and addiction?  That&#039;s a hard one for me to tackle, so I&#039;m perfectly willing to let that challenge of Bittman go.  As for &quot;why does decision fatigue explain why some people order grease&quot;, a couple of the most interesting paragraphs from the link in my previous comment...

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Once you’re mentally depleted, you become reluctant to make trade-offs, which involve a particularly advanced and taxing form of decision making. In the rest of the animal kingdom, there aren’t a lot of protracted negotiations between predators and prey. To compromise is a complex human ability and therefore one of the first to decline when willpower is depleted. You become what researchers call a cognitive miser, hoarding your energy. If you’re shopping, you’re liable to look at only one dimension, like price: just give me the cheapest. Or you indulge yourself by looking at quality: I want the very best (an especially easy strategy if someone else is paying). Decision fatigue leaves you vulnerable to marketers who know how to time their sales, as Jonathan Levav, the Stanford professor, demonstrated in experiments involving tailored suits and new cars. 

...Shopping can be especially tiring for the poor, who have to struggle continually with trade-offs.  Most of us in America won’t spend a lot of time agonizing over whether we can afford to buy soap, but it can be a depleting choice in rural India. Dean Spears, an economist at Princeton, offered people in 20 villages in Rajasthan in northwestern India the chance to buy a couple of bars of brand-name soap for the equivalent of less than 20 cents. It was a steep discount off the regular price, yet even that sum was a strain for the people in the 10 poorest villages. Whether or not they bought the soap, the act of making the decision left them with less willpower, as measured afterward in a test of how long they could squeeze a hand grip. In the slightly more affluent villages, people’s willpower wasn’t affected significantly. Because they had more money, they didn’t have to spend as much effort weighing the merits of the soap versus, say, food or medicine. 

Spears and other researchers argue that this sort of decision fatigue is a major — and hitherto ignored — factor in trapping people in poverty. Because their financial situation forces them to make so many trade-offs, they have less willpower to devote to school, work and other activities that might get them into the middle class. It’s hard to know exactly how important this factor is, but there’s no doubt that willpower is a special problem for poor people. Study after study has shown that low self-control correlates with low income as well as with a host of other problems, including poor achievement in school, divorce, crime, alcoholism and poor health. Lapses in self-control have led to the notion of the “undeserving poor” — epitomized by the image of the welfare mom using food stamps to buy junk food — but Spears urges sympathy for someone who makes decisions all day on a tight budget.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still a bit shaken up by the dog in the other thread, but I want to reply before the conversation dies off.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if burgers and fries are addictive.  What&#8217;s the line between &#8220;I like that&#8221; and addiction?  That&#8217;s a hard one for me to tackle, so I&#8217;m perfectly willing to let that challenge of Bittman go.  As for &#8220;why does decision fatigue explain why some people order grease&#8221;, a couple of the most interesting paragraphs from the link in my previous comment&#8230;</p>
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Once you’re mentally depleted, you become reluctant to make trade-offs, which involve a particularly advanced and taxing form of decision making. In the rest of the animal kingdom, there aren’t a lot of protracted negotiations between predators and prey. To compromise is a complex human ability and therefore one of the first to decline when willpower is depleted. You become what researchers call a cognitive miser, hoarding your energy. If you’re shopping, you’re liable to look at only one dimension, like price: just give me the cheapest. Or you indulge yourself by looking at quality: I want the very best (an especially easy strategy if someone else is paying). Decision fatigue leaves you vulnerable to marketers who know how to time their sales, as Jonathan Levav, the Stanford professor, demonstrated in experiments involving tailored suits and new cars. </p>
<p>&#8230;Shopping can be especially tiring for the poor, who have to struggle continually with trade-offs.  Most of us in America won’t spend a lot of time agonizing over whether we can afford to buy soap, but it can be a depleting choice in rural India. Dean Spears, an economist at Princeton, offered people in 20 villages in Rajasthan in northwestern India the chance to buy a couple of bars of brand-name soap for the equivalent of less than 20 cents. It was a steep discount off the regular price, yet even that sum was a strain for the people in the 10 poorest villages. Whether or not they bought the soap, the act of making the decision left them with less willpower, as measured afterward in a test of how long they could squeeze a hand grip. In the slightly more affluent villages, people’s willpower wasn’t affected significantly. Because they had more money, they didn’t have to spend as much effort weighing the merits of the soap versus, say, food or medicine. </p>
<p>Spears and other researchers argue that this sort of decision fatigue is a major — and hitherto ignored — factor in trapping people in poverty. Because their financial situation forces them to make so many trade-offs, they have less willpower to devote to school, work and other activities that might get them into the middle class. It’s hard to know exactly how important this factor is, but there’s no doubt that willpower is a special problem for poor people. Study after study has shown that low self-control correlates with low income as well as with a host of other problems, including poor achievement in school, divorce, crime, alcoholism and poor health. Lapses in self-control have led to the notion of the “undeserving poor” — epitomized by the image of the welfare mom using food stamps to buy junk food — but Spears urges sympathy for someone who makes decisions all day on a tight budget.</em></p>
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		<title>By: At Home in Decatur</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/09/26/morning-metro-georgia-olive-farmers-castle-history-and-dhs-at-the-woodruff/#comment-142631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[At Home in Decatur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 19:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my experience and according to the research, the most stressful jobs are not those that are higher paid, more professional, and/or require more skills or experience.  Rather, they are the low to middling paying jobs with high volume, lots of responsibility, but little control or power.   A high level of responsibility can be exciting and energizing...unless it comes with little credit, few perks, inadequate time and resources to do a good job, and lots of blame.  Those are the jobs that inspire burn-out, postal behavior, and/or suicide.  

Exceptions exist of course---emergency room neurosurgeon, ruler of a country under attack, death penalty defensive attorney.  But on average, the average white collar or Eileen Fisher executive has less stress, less abuse, and more reward than your average blue collar worker desperately trying to hang on to a minimum wage job.

Re cooking fatigue:  I like the idea of whipping up delightfully simple yet delicious and healthy meals for the family.  It&#039;s the inexorability of 3 meals/day X 7 days per week X 52 weeks per year that gets to me. Hence the unending search for the versatile, reasonably priced, consistent nearby family dining choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience and according to the research, the most stressful jobs are not those that are higher paid, more professional, and/or require more skills or experience.  Rather, they are the low to middling paying jobs with high volume, lots of responsibility, but little control or power.   A high level of responsibility can be exciting and energizing&#8230;unless it comes with little credit, few perks, inadequate time and resources to do a good job, and lots of blame.  Those are the jobs that inspire burn-out, postal behavior, and/or suicide.  </p>
<p>Exceptions exist of course&#8212;emergency room neurosurgeon, ruler of a country under attack, death penalty defensive attorney.  But on average, the average white collar or Eileen Fisher executive has less stress, less abuse, and more reward than your average blue collar worker desperately trying to hang on to a minimum wage job.</p>
<p>Re cooking fatigue:  I like the idea of whipping up delightfully simple yet delicious and healthy meals for the family.  It&#8217;s the inexorability of 3 meals/day X 7 days per week X 52 weeks per year that gets to me. Hence the unending search for the versatile, reasonably priced, consistent nearby family dining choice.</p>
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		<title>By: DEM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DEM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we do watch a whole lot of TV, and it is very hard to believe that we don&#039;t, then how overworked can we be?  That&#039;s one point that Bittman does make pretty persuasively.  People have the time to cook.  They just don&#039;t want to.  Pick up a Wendy&#039;s meal and you sit right down to that next episode of Jersey Shore.  But if you have to soak a pot of navy beans, chop up some onions and trim a pork roast, then you might miss that great scene where they all go to a bar and get drunk.  And who wants to miss that?  I&#039;m being flip of course but many people do seem to live their lives that way.  Bittman&#039;s concession about free time seems to lead him to the conclusion that burders and fries are physically addictive, which seems ridiculous and was my primary target.

Anyway, of course not all situations are created equal.  So what?  The guy who works two jobs understandably does not want to spend 45 minutes making a meal.  But the white collar guy who gets home from work at 8:30 doesn&#039;t want to, either.  Either of these guys can get a healthy meal at McD&#039;s just as fast and as easily as they can get a burger and fries.  Why does decision fatigue explain why some people always seem to order the grease?   And from an obseity standpoint, you have to factor in the almost lack of exercise, too.  Are some people so fatigued that they can&#039;t ever be expected to do the &quot;right&quot; thing?  Hitting the drive thru a few times a week is one thing.  Living a sedentary lifestyle is another.

And what does our hypothetical man&#039;s pay have to do with it?  Making more money does not necessarily mean your self-discipline is taxed to a lesser degree.  High-paying jobs require huge amounts of sacrifice and self-disclipline, both in terms of doing what is required to get them and then performing to the level expected of someone making six figures.  I&#039;m not sure decision fatigue can explain all of that, though you may well have studied it more than I have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we do watch a whole lot of TV, and it is very hard to believe that we don&#8217;t, then how overworked can we be?  That&#8217;s one point that Bittman does make pretty persuasively.  People have the time to cook.  They just don&#8217;t want to.  Pick up a Wendy&#8217;s meal and you sit right down to that next episode of Jersey Shore.  But if you have to soak a pot of navy beans, chop up some onions and trim a pork roast, then you might miss that great scene where they all go to a bar and get drunk.  And who wants to miss that?  I&#8217;m being flip of course but many people do seem to live their lives that way.  Bittman&#8217;s concession about free time seems to lead him to the conclusion that burders and fries are physically addictive, which seems ridiculous and was my primary target.</p>
<p>Anyway, of course not all situations are created equal.  So what?  The guy who works two jobs understandably does not want to spend 45 minutes making a meal.  But the white collar guy who gets home from work at 8:30 doesn&#8217;t want to, either.  Either of these guys can get a healthy meal at McD&#8217;s just as fast and as easily as they can get a burger and fries.  Why does decision fatigue explain why some people always seem to order the grease?   And from an obseity standpoint, you have to factor in the almost lack of exercise, too.  Are some people so fatigued that they can&#8217;t ever be expected to do the &#8220;right&#8221; thing?  Hitting the drive thru a few times a week is one thing.  Living a sedentary lifestyle is another.</p>
<p>And what does our hypothetical man&#8217;s pay have to do with it?  Making more money does not necessarily mean your self-discipline is taxed to a lesser degree.  High-paying jobs require huge amounts of sacrifice and self-disclipline, both in terms of doing what is required to get them and then performing to the level expected of someone making six figures.  I&#8217;m not sure decision fatigue can explain all of that, though you may well have studied it more than I have.</p>
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		<title>By: Decatur Metro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Decatur Metro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More than his &quot;solutions&quot;, I think his view about food options are interesting.  He views the ease of fast food as one of the remaining luxuries for the lower classes.

I&#039;ve been known to say on this site before that people watch a lot of TV each day and that time could - in THEORY - be used for cooking for nutritious food at a low price.  But more recently I&#039;ve read some stuff on &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/magazine/do-you-suffer-from-decision-fatigue.html?pagewanted=all&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;decision fatigue&lt;/a&gt;&quot; and realized that there&#039;s no simple answer to getting people to &quot;cook more&quot;.  We&#039;re an overworked society with a quick and easy option for eating.  That&#039;s new to the human race, and not something we&#039;ve adapted to yet.  Forget all the marketing and low prices, ease, I&#039;ve come to believe, is the key factor that drives fast food sales.

But anyway, let&#039;s dig into your argument a bit.  When it comes to self-control and self-reliance, do you believe that everyone&#039;s situation is created equal?  That a man with two low-paying jobs should have the same levels of self-control as you or I?  Research - in the link above - seems to point towards no.  And if self-control is relative, not just to the person but because of the environment in which one lives, should it really be relied on to dictate universal principles?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than his &#8220;solutions&#8221;, I think his view about food options are interesting.  He views the ease of fast food as one of the remaining luxuries for the lower classes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been known to say on this site before that people watch a lot of TV each day and that time could &#8211; in THEORY &#8211; be used for cooking for nutritious food at a low price.  But more recently I&#8217;ve read some stuff on &#8220;<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/magazine/do-you-suffer-from-decision-fatigue.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">decision fatigue</a>&#8221; and realized that there&#8217;s no simple answer to getting people to &#8220;cook more&#8221;.  We&#8217;re an overworked society with a quick and easy option for eating.  That&#8217;s new to the human race, and not something we&#8217;ve adapted to yet.  Forget all the marketing and low prices, ease, I&#8217;ve come to believe, is the key factor that drives fast food sales.</p>
<p>But anyway, let&#8217;s dig into your argument a bit.  When it comes to self-control and self-reliance, do you believe that everyone&#8217;s situation is created equal?  That a man with two low-paying jobs should have the same levels of self-control as you or I?  Research &#8211; in the link above &#8211; seems to point towards no.  And if self-control is relative, not just to the person but because of the environment in which one lives, should it really be relied on to dictate universal principles?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyrics Only Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lyrics Only Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Responsibility? What&#039;s that?
Responsibility? Not quite yet
Responsibility? What&#039;s that?
I don&#039;t want to think about it; we&#039;d be better off without it

-MxPx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responsibility? What&#8217;s that?<br />
Responsibility? Not quite yet<br />
Responsibility? What&#8217;s that?<br />
I don&#8217;t want to think about it; we&#8217;d be better off without it</p>
<p>-MxPx</p>
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