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	<title>Comments on: Decatur PD: Note on Windshield is &#8220;Proper Procedure&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Bulldog</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/05/10/decatur-pd-note-on-windshield-is-proper-procedure/#comment-113509</link>
		<dc:creator>Bulldog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 17:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can someone please tell me why we are criticizing the police that help keep our four square miles safe?

(Yes, I can read. And yes, I have read the above and the other thread. Seems like more people want to complain than applaud their efforts).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please tell me why we are criticizing the police that help keep our four square miles safe?</p>
<p>(Yes, I can read. And yes, I have read the above and the other thread. Seems like more people want to complain than applaud their efforts).</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/05/10/decatur-pd-note-on-windshield-is-proper-procedure/#comment-113506</link>
		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 16:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chances are if the light was on than someone had been in the car, and in the driveway, before the police officer! No one seems to be concerned by that.  Also, if the light was on in the car, the door may have been open. People who open unlocked cars and rifle through contents don&#039;t close the door to avoid the slamming noise. I have come out to a car with a dead battery before due to this practice. I think the police officer was simply trying to assess if the driver was okay and whether or not property had been stolen. Once the officer saw that everything looked okay they chose to leave a note rather than wake someone up in the middle of the night. That seems resonable to me. I think we should give our officers the benefit of the doubt. I have always had very positive experiences. I don&#039;t think they&#039;re out to get us or violate our rights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chances are if the light was on than someone had been in the car, and in the driveway, before the police officer! No one seems to be concerned by that.  Also, if the light was on in the car, the door may have been open. People who open unlocked cars and rifle through contents don&#8217;t close the door to avoid the slamming noise. I have come out to a car with a dead battery before due to this practice. I think the police officer was simply trying to assess if the driver was okay and whether or not property had been stolen. Once the officer saw that everything looked okay they chose to leave a note rather than wake someone up in the middle of the night. That seems resonable to me. I think we should give our officers the benefit of the doubt. I have always had very positive experiences. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re out to get us or violate our rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/05/10/decatur-pd-note-on-windshield-is-proper-procedure/#comment-113500</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 16:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, the police lose either way.  If you knock on the door and get people up at 4:30 AM, they&#039;re upset at that.   I know for a fact that there was a similar car-lights-on-and-door-unlocked situation a few years ago and, rather than locking it and leaving a note, the owner was called.  In that case, they were upset at having to get out of bed to answer the phone.

As for private property or not, in this case the officer was trying, based upon their observation of the situation, to determine whether a crime had been committed or not.  That would be the same regardless of where the car was.  

Imagine for a minute that the owner knew that she had left the car unlocked, as it seems many people in the neighborhood do, came out in the morning and found it locked.  She would reasonably think that someone had been messing with her car.  I think it would go down much better if the sticker was there so she would know who it was, rather than no sticker, in which case she might have called the police anyway.  And, as I said before, why didn&#039;t she call anyway when she found the sticker and get an explanation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the police lose either way.  If you knock on the door and get people up at 4:30 AM, they&#8217;re upset at that.   I know for a fact that there was a similar car-lights-on-and-door-unlocked situation a few years ago and, rather than locking it and leaving a note, the owner was called.  In that case, they were upset at having to get out of bed to answer the phone.</p>
<p>As for private property or not, in this case the officer was trying, based upon their observation of the situation, to determine whether a crime had been committed or not.  That would be the same regardless of where the car was.  </p>
<p>Imagine for a minute that the owner knew that she had left the car unlocked, as it seems many people in the neighborhood do, came out in the morning and found it locked.  She would reasonably think that someone had been messing with her car.  I think it would go down much better if the sticker was there so she would know who it was, rather than no sticker, in which case she might have called the police anyway.  And, as I said before, why didn&#8217;t she call anyway when she found the sticker and get an explanation?</p>
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		<title>By: Brianc</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/05/10/decatur-pd-note-on-windshield-is-proper-procedure/#comment-113489</link>
		<dc:creator>Brianc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 15:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So, while choosing not to lock your car is your business, but in a way and to a degree, it’s also my business if I’m your neighbor. &quot;

Sorry, but I disagree. As many people have pointed out, a locked door is little deterrence for a criminal, and may only result in a broken window. The comparison to seat belts does not hold up. The cost/benefit ratio is entirely different, for one thing. Plus, we do not have a Constitutional right to drive, but we do have a right to be left alone on our own property.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, while choosing not to lock your car is your business, but in a way and to a degree, it’s also my business if I’m your neighbor. &#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, but I disagree. As many people have pointed out, a locked door is little deterrence for a criminal, and may only result in a broken window. The comparison to seat belts does not hold up. The cost/benefit ratio is entirely different, for one thing. Plus, we do not have a Constitutional right to drive, but we do have a right to be left alone on our own property.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeBlow</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/05/10/decatur-pd-note-on-windshield-is-proper-procedure/#comment-113480</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeBlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 14:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the basic disagreement is with Deputy Chief Lee&#039;s assertion that the officer followed &quot;proper procedure.&quot;

Proper procedure, IMO, is ringing the doorbell and alerting the homeowner, especially since the vehicle was located on PRIVATE PROPERTY.  If the vehicle is parked on the street, I can see where an officer MIGHT have justification to open and enter the vehicle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the basic disagreement is with Deputy Chief Lee&#8217;s assertion that the officer followed &#8220;proper procedure.&#8221;</p>
<p>Proper procedure, IMO, is ringing the doorbell and alerting the homeowner, especially since the vehicle was located on PRIVATE PROPERTY.  If the vehicle is parked on the street, I can see where an officer MIGHT have justification to open and enter the vehicle.</p>
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		<title>By: looney mooney</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/05/10/decatur-pd-note-on-windshield-is-proper-procedure/#comment-113448</link>
		<dc:creator>looney mooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 12:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stay out of my car.  It doesn&#039;t have power locks, so I leave nothing in there of value.  It saves me the deductible for the broken window!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay out of my car.  It doesn&#8217;t have power locks, so I leave nothing in there of value.  It saves me the deductible for the broken window!</p>
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		<title>By: smalltowngal</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/05/10/decatur-pd-note-on-windshield-is-proper-procedure/#comment-113388</link>
		<dc:creator>smalltowngal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 04:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;(but I am also one of those bad people who thinks it’s no one’s business if I as an adult chooses not to wear a seat belt)&quot;

Veering off topic, but can&#039;t help myself. As somebody who buckles her seat belt to move the car around in the driveway (not always, but I&#039;m pretty rigorous wearing it), I sure would hate to bleed out because ER personnel are tied up taking care of somebody who sustained gory injuries because they exercised their freedom not to buckle up. Nellie, I suspect you wear your seat belt and are simply making a point about individual liberty. But my point is that there are really very few ways in which we can take personal risks without imperiling other people, too.

And, just to wander back toward the thread, the more careless people on a given street are about securing their premises and belongings, the more worthwhile that territory becomes for criminals to cruise. So, while choosing not to lock your car is your business, but in a way and to a degree, it&#039;s also my business if I&#039;m your neighbor. (Not you, Nellie, I mean the rhetorical &quot;you.&quot;) Which is not to say I don&#039;t get the indignance about overzealous policing. It doesn&#039;t seem to me like evidence of a burgeoning police state, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(but I am also one of those bad people who thinks it’s no one’s business if I as an adult chooses not to wear a seat belt)&#8221;</p>
<p>Veering off topic, but can&#8217;t help myself. As somebody who buckles her seat belt to move the car around in the driveway (not always, but I&#8217;m pretty rigorous wearing it), I sure would hate to bleed out because ER personnel are tied up taking care of somebody who sustained gory injuries because they exercised their freedom not to buckle up. Nellie, I suspect you wear your seat belt and are simply making a point about individual liberty. But my point is that there are really very few ways in which we can take personal risks without imperiling other people, too.</p>
<p>And, just to wander back toward the thread, the more careless people on a given street are about securing their premises and belongings, the more worthwhile that territory becomes for criminals to cruise. So, while choosing not to lock your car is your business, but in a way and to a degree, it&#8217;s also my business if I&#8217;m your neighbor. (Not you, Nellie, I mean the rhetorical &#8220;you.&#8221;) Which is not to say I don&#8217;t get the indignance about overzealous policing. It doesn&#8217;t seem to me like evidence of a burgeoning police state, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Study Buddy</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2011/05/10/decatur-pd-note-on-windshield-is-proper-procedure/#comment-113369</link>
		<dc:creator>Study Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 02:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please stay out of my car, everyone!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stay out of my car, everyone!</p>
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