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	<title>Comments on: City To Hold Railroad Crossing Improvements Workshop &#8211; Nov. 12th</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/22/city-to-hold-railroad-crossing-improvements-workshop-nov-12th/#comment-20652</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GDOT rocks !  LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GDOT rocks !  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Boykin</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/22/city-to-hold-railroad-crossing-improvements-workshop-nov-12th/#comment-20648</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Boykin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bond issue only covered the City&#039;s required 20% match for the TE funds. If I remember correctly, we weren&#039;t sure at the time of the bond referendum if we&#039;d get the TE grant that grant cycle or not, but the City felt it enhanced our chance if we could show GDOT that we had our 20% match in hand.

It takes awhile to get the TE funds even after you&#039;re awarded so in the big scheme of things, a two year wait (to even start the public input and design phase) is not that far out of line.  However, waiting over a year plus for the Road Diet on W. Ponce AFTER Decatur has submitted every document GDOT has asked for IS out of line, but GDOT has allocated its Funds to other projects and doesn&#039;t have the cash to cover our TE grant. Nice, that!

What&#039;s sad is the federal TE program is about the ONLY transportation program that offers funding opportunities for these types of projects.  It is pretty much the only source of funds to do bicycle and pedestrian projects - the TE program has funded most of Decatur&#039;s Streetscape phases. So you can thank TE and Decatur&#039;s grant success for all the nice sidewalks, trees, benches and trash cans you see around town. 

(The solar trash cans come from sanitation fee funds, but that&#039;s a comment for another blog post!)

If Decatur wanted to build a freeway, there would be lots of places we could apply for funding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bond issue only covered the City&#8217;s required 20% match for the TE funds. If I remember correctly, we weren&#8217;t sure at the time of the bond referendum if we&#8217;d get the TE grant that grant cycle or not, but the City felt it enhanced our chance if we could show GDOT that we had our 20% match in hand.</p>
<p>It takes awhile to get the TE funds even after you&#8217;re awarded so in the big scheme of things, a two year wait (to even start the public input and design phase) is not that far out of line.  However, waiting over a year plus for the Road Diet on W. Ponce AFTER Decatur has submitted every document GDOT has asked for IS out of line, but GDOT has allocated its Funds to other projects and doesn&#8217;t have the cash to cover our TE grant. Nice, that!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s sad is the federal TE program is about the ONLY transportation program that offers funding opportunities for these types of projects.  It is pretty much the only source of funds to do bicycle and pedestrian projects &#8211; the TE program has funded most of Decatur&#8217;s Streetscape phases. So you can thank TE and Decatur&#8217;s grant success for all the nice sidewalks, trees, benches and trash cans you see around town. </p>
<p>(The solar trash cans come from sanitation fee funds, but that&#8217;s a comment for another blog post!)</p>
<p>If Decatur wanted to build a freeway, there would be lots of places we could apply for funding.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/22/city-to-hold-railroad-crossing-improvements-workshop-nov-12th/#comment-20639</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two years ago, I believe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years ago, I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: another rick</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/22/city-to-hold-railroad-crossing-improvements-workshop-nov-12th/#comment-20624</link>
		<dc:creator>another rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And how many years ago did we vote on the bond issue to fix this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how many years ago did we vote on the bond issue to fix this?</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Boykin</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/22/city-to-hold-railroad-crossing-improvements-workshop-nov-12th/#comment-20602</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Boykin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: The Atlanta Ave. Crossing.  The City applied to the GDOT for Transportation Enhancement (TE) grants during the last TE grant cycle for these 2 intersections with the understanding that the City &amp; School System would apply to GDOT for a Safe Routes to School (SRTS) grant for Atlanta Ave.  We had the agreements in place, it was identified as a SRTS infrastructure improvement, etc. by both the City and the School System.

The GDOT delayed the first GDOT SRTS grant application cycle for years (they did not award the first grants until this past summer - thus making Georgia the LAST state in the USA - and behind the District of Columbia - to award any funding).(GDOT has had roughly 16 million dollars to spend on SRTS infrastructure projects in the state for - heck - 4 plus years).

And we lost.  GDOT decided to award the grants based on congressional districting (I&#039;m on the state SRTS Advisory Committee and we fought that hard). Meaning GDOT awarded one grant per the 13 Congressional Districts instead of ranking all the grants together and picking the top ten or whatever. I &quot;heard&quot; that Decatur didn&#039;t get a grant because we were already doing so well and &quot;they&quot; needed to spread the money around......

Plus they capped the grants at $500,000.00 each and the Atlanta Ave crossing was going to be more than that and the GDOT was not too interested in Decatur trying to break it out into two phases and applying for two grants.

There are a lot more details to this and I&#039;ve gone way too deep (probably) for a lot of readers.  We actually backed off of going after Atl. Ave directly with GDOT SRTS and applied for smaller projects, but that intersection was our original target.

Go look at the concept drawing of the Atlanta Ave. intersection in the Community Transportation Plan, you&#039;ll see a very nice overhead before/after concept drawing of it. I think we may apply for it in the next TE grant cycle, but I&#039;m not sure exactly when that is - and the GDOT is out of funds now anyway.

We also have a TE grant to do a Road Diet on West Ponce from the Fernbank bridge to the Post Office - going from 4 travel lanes to 3 with bike lanes and some parking along the sides. We submitted the final documents long ago and have yet to receive the funds.  I spoke with GDOT&#039;s Chief Engineer/Interim Commissioner last June and he assured me the project would &quot;happen soon&quot;, but I&#039;ve since found out that GDOT just doesn&#039;t have the funds right now....that Road Diet should have been completed over a year ago!

I could go on about this for some time......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: The Atlanta Ave. Crossing.  The City applied to the GDOT for Transportation Enhancement (TE) grants during the last TE grant cycle for these 2 intersections with the understanding that the City &amp; School System would apply to GDOT for a Safe Routes to School (SRTS) grant for Atlanta Ave.  We had the agreements in place, it was identified as a SRTS infrastructure improvement, etc. by both the City and the School System.</p>
<p>The GDOT delayed the first GDOT SRTS grant application cycle for years (they did not award the first grants until this past summer &#8211; thus making Georgia the LAST state in the USA &#8211; and behind the District of Columbia &#8211; to award any funding).(GDOT has had roughly 16 million dollars to spend on SRTS infrastructure projects in the state for &#8211; heck &#8211; 4 plus years).</p>
<p>And we lost.  GDOT decided to award the grants based on congressional districting (I&#8217;m on the state SRTS Advisory Committee and we fought that hard). Meaning GDOT awarded one grant per the 13 Congressional Districts instead of ranking all the grants together and picking the top ten or whatever. I &#8220;heard&#8221; that Decatur didn&#8217;t get a grant because we were already doing so well and &#8220;they&#8221; needed to spread the money around&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Plus they capped the grants at $500,000.00 each and the Atlanta Ave crossing was going to be more than that and the GDOT was not too interested in Decatur trying to break it out into two phases and applying for two grants.</p>
<p>There are a lot more details to this and I&#8217;ve gone way too deep (probably) for a lot of readers.  We actually backed off of going after Atl. Ave directly with GDOT SRTS and applied for smaller projects, but that intersection was our original target.</p>
<p>Go look at the concept drawing of the Atlanta Ave. intersection in the Community Transportation Plan, you&#8217;ll see a very nice overhead before/after concept drawing of it. I think we may apply for it in the next TE grant cycle, but I&#8217;m not sure exactly when that is &#8211; and the GDOT is out of funds now anyway.</p>
<p>We also have a TE grant to do a Road Diet on West Ponce from the Fernbank bridge to the Post Office &#8211; going from 4 travel lanes to 3 with bike lanes and some parking along the sides. We submitted the final documents long ago and have yet to receive the funds.  I spoke with GDOT&#8217;s Chief Engineer/Interim Commissioner last June and he assured me the project would &#8220;happen soon&#8221;, but I&#8217;ve since found out that GDOT just doesn&#8217;t have the funds right now&#8230;.that Road Diet should have been completed over a year ago!</p>
<p>I could go on about this for some time&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/22/city-to-hold-railroad-crossing-improvements-workshop-nov-12th/#comment-20591</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The infrastructure and attendant cost required for the quiet zone would seem to dictate that it be 7/24. I also don&#039;t think the FRA would allow partial hours due to the irregularity of the trains and possible confusion to the engineers driving them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The infrastructure and attendant cost required for the quiet zone would seem to dictate that it be 7/24. I also don&#8217;t think the FRA would allow partial hours due to the irregularity of the trains and possible confusion to the engineers driving them.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Loupe</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/22/city-to-hold-railroad-crossing-improvements-workshop-nov-12th/#comment-20590</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Loupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m Nancy&#039;s neighbor. Fred, you mean the transportation plan isn&#039;t going to do anything about the Crossing at Atlanta Avenue? You know, that&#039;s a major way that folks get from the north side of town to Renfroe, and the intersection is really worrisome. I had understood it would be addressed in the plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Nancy&#8217;s neighbor. Fred, you mean the transportation plan isn&#8217;t going to do anything about the Crossing at Atlanta Avenue? You know, that&#8217;s a major way that folks get from the north side of town to Renfroe, and the intersection is really worrisome. I had understood it would be addressed in the plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/22/city-to-hold-railroad-crossing-improvements-workshop-nov-12th/#comment-20585</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Fred, for posting that link. Is there any timeframe for the Atlanta Ave crossing changes or are they off the schedule entirely?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Fred, for posting that link. Is there any timeframe for the Atlanta Ave crossing changes or are they off the schedule entirely?</p>
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