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	<title>Comments on: Questions for Decatur Metro&#8217;s Live Online Debate Due Tomorrow</title>
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		<title>By: Decatur Metro</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/19/questions-for-decatur-metros-live-online-debate-due-tomorrow/#comment-20561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Decatur Metro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A bit more evidence to Scott&#039;s point about the solar trash compactors doing &quot;double-duty&quot; as a PR service.   InDecatur &lt;a href=&quot;http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/in_decatur/2009/10/georgia-chapter-of-sierra-club-moves-from-midtown-to-decatur.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reminds me&lt;/a&gt; that the GA chapter of the Sierra Club just moved here for the express reason that we have a &quot;green&quot; image.  How much is that worth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit more evidence to Scott&#8217;s point about the solar trash compactors doing &#8220;double-duty&#8221; as a PR service.   InDecatur <a href="http://airbornecombatengineer.typepad.com/in_decatur/2009/10/georgia-chapter-of-sierra-club-moves-from-midtown-to-decatur.html" rel="nofollow">reminds me</a> that the GA chapter of the Sierra Club just moved here for the express reason that we have a &#8220;green&#8221; image.  How much is that worth?</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/19/questions-for-decatur-metros-live-online-debate-due-tomorrow/#comment-20423</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, that&#039;s not my point at all. My apologies to solar compactors the world &#039;round. I don&#039;t wish to be accused of solar compactorism, or &#039;traditional can bias.&#039;

I used it only as a metaphor for &quot;nice to have&quot; spending, in comparison to &quot;have to have&quot; or &quot;don&#039;t really need&quot; spending. Of course, I certainly agree with Scott that there is more than one way to weigh cost/benefit analysis. 

Maybe my point is better summarized as such:
If you ask people &quot;would you like a new Gizmo?&quot; they will say &quot;yes, of course!&quot;
If you ask, &quot;would you like us to fire the math teacher so you can have a new Gizmo?&quot; the answer will usually and rightfully be &quot;no.&quot;
(I won&#039;t even ask this question &quot;Would you like a new Gizmo, or $10 of your tax money back in your pocket?&quot; I could go on for hours. ;-)

It&#039;s simply my hope that (if we don&#039;t already) we evaluate all city purchases in this context.

Again, on the whole, I think the city does a responsible job with small, low impact purchases like this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that&#8217;s not my point at all. My apologies to solar compactors the world &#8217;round. I don&#8217;t wish to be accused of solar compactorism, or &#8216;traditional can bias.&#8217;</p>
<p>I used it only as a metaphor for &#8220;nice to have&#8221; spending, in comparison to &#8220;have to have&#8221; or &#8220;don&#8217;t really need&#8221; spending. Of course, I certainly agree with Scott that there is more than one way to weigh cost/benefit analysis. </p>
<p>Maybe my point is better summarized as such:<br />
If you ask people &#8220;would you like a new Gizmo?&#8221; they will say &#8220;yes, of course!&#8221;<br />
If you ask, &#8220;would you like us to fire the math teacher so you can have a new Gizmo?&#8221; the answer will usually and rightfully be &#8220;no.&#8221;<br />
(I won&#8217;t even ask this question &#8220;Would you like a new Gizmo, or $10 of your tax money back in your pocket?&#8221; I could go on for hours. <img src="/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply my hope that (if we don&#8217;t already) we evaluate all city purchases in this context.</p>
<p>Again, on the whole, I think the city does a responsible job with small, low impact purchases like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/10/19/questions-for-decatur-metros-live-online-debate-due-tomorrow/#comment-20421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robbie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;First they came for the solar trash cans, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trash can&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First they came for the solar trash cans, and I did not speak out &#8211; because I was not a trash can&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to play devil&#039;s advocate since I hate to see Mr. Trash Compactor get dogpiled upon. 

The only way to determine is something is the &quot;best&quot; thing we can do with taxpayer money is to determine the priorities it should be measured against. Pure cost is not the only one. I&#039;m not claiming any particular expertise in this matter but, off the top of my head, I can think of issues like:

&gt; The previous trash cans there were often overflowing, which presents an, albeit small, barrier to downtown patronage. People don&#039;t like trashy sidewalks, especially when our retailers are often competing against professionally manicured malls for business. In lieu of a compactor, we could do more frequent trash pick-ups, but that comes with a labor cost. Perhaps the receptacle pays for itself over time?

&gt; The solar compactors do double duty as PR devices, building Decatur&#039;s reputation as an innovative, environmentally minded town. Whether you agree with this identity or not is immaterial. There&#039;s no denying that it is a significant part of what draws people here, meaning it contributes to property values and retail survival.

There&#039;s probably more but that&#039;s enough to give our Solar friend a fighting chance in this brutal character assassination!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to play devil&#8217;s advocate since I hate to see Mr. Trash Compactor get dogpiled upon. </p>
<p>The only way to determine is something is the &#8220;best&#8221; thing we can do with taxpayer money is to determine the priorities it should be measured against. Pure cost is not the only one. I&#8217;m not claiming any particular expertise in this matter but, off the top of my head, I can think of issues like:</p>
<p>&gt; The previous trash cans there were often overflowing, which presents an, albeit small, barrier to downtown patronage. People don&#8217;t like trashy sidewalks, especially when our retailers are often competing against professionally manicured malls for business. In lieu of a compactor, we could do more frequent trash pick-ups, but that comes with a labor cost. Perhaps the receptacle pays for itself over time?</p>
<p>&gt; The solar compactors do double duty as PR devices, building Decatur&#8217;s reputation as an innovative, environmentally minded town. Whether you agree with this identity or not is immaterial. There&#8217;s no denying that it is a significant part of what draws people here, meaning it contributes to property values and retail survival.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably more but that&#8217;s enough to give our Solar friend a fighting chance in this brutal character assassination!</p>
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		<title>By: Decatur Metro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Decatur Metro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a weird thread that seems to keep saying &quot;I&#039;m not SAYIN, I&#039;m just SAYIN!&quot;

Interesting how when we&#039;re going through the city budget no one says a thing about budgeting, but a couple solar-powered trash compactors get people questioning the city&#039;s entire process.

The city has a large reserve fund to mitigate economic turmoil and is pretty hardcore about it&#039;s budget.  If your problem is too much government spending, just make that your question.  &quot;Do you believe Decatur taxes are too high for all residents?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a weird thread that seems to keep saying &#8220;I&#8217;m not SAYIN, I&#8217;m just SAYIN!&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting how when we&#8217;re going through the city budget no one says a thing about budgeting, but a couple solar-powered trash compactors get people questioning the city&#8217;s entire process.</p>
<p>The city has a large reserve fund to mitigate economic turmoil and is pretty hardcore about it&#8217;s budget.  If your problem is too much government spending, just make that your question.  &#8220;Do you believe Decatur taxes are too high for all residents?&#8221;</p>
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