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		<title>By: Decatur Metro</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/05/11/how-community-affects-decision-making/#comment-9399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Decatur Metro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting viewpoint on moderation Kim...keeping it as barely noticeable as possible.  I think there are positives and negatives to such a scenario.

If you don&#039;t show the system in action and provide continual justification, I think people would become suspicious when something just disappeared and wonder why that had happened.  This could eventually lead to stifled conversation, because you become &quot;the man behind the curtain.&quot; Being completely open and upfront about it provides full disclosure and examples/reminders of what type of actions aren&#039;t tolerated.  Also, if you keep it quiet, no one really has the opportunity to challenge your moderation actions...and discussion, along with transparency, is key to a good discussion experience.

And unfortunately, name calling and profanity isn&#039;t the only way to insult others personally.  So a lot of automated mechanisms out there miss stuff.  As for swearing, I learned long ago during the spam attack of July 08, which involved endless repetition of the word &quot;f*ck&quot;, that the worst profanity goes immediately to moderation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting viewpoint on moderation Kim&#8230;keeping it as barely noticeable as possible.  I think there are positives and negatives to such a scenario.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t show the system in action and provide continual justification, I think people would become suspicious when something just disappeared and wonder why that had happened.  This could eventually lead to stifled conversation, because you become &#8220;the man behind the curtain.&#8221; Being completely open and upfront about it provides full disclosure and examples/reminders of what type of actions aren&#8217;t tolerated.  Also, if you keep it quiet, no one really has the opportunity to challenge your moderation actions&#8230;and discussion, along with transparency, is key to a good discussion experience.</p>
<p>And unfortunately, name calling and profanity isn&#8217;t the only way to insult others personally.  So a lot of automated mechanisms out there miss stuff.  As for swearing, I learned long ago during the spam attack of July 08, which involved endless repetition of the word &#8220;f*ck&#8221;, that the worst profanity goes immediately to moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: kim-&#62;communityradar.com</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/05/11/how-community-affects-decision-making/#comment-9398</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just can&#039;t bring myself to express an opinion on climate change - perhaps it&#039;s my green brain or just a short attention span or perhaps the unnerving sense that I am not qualified.

On the topic of communal decision making or perspectives versus individual ones, the classic problem-solving scenario is the team exercise where you are marooned on the moon. Used in business education and other team-building areas, the &quot;game&quot; requires that individual members of the team select the items from the marooned mooncraft&#039;s inventory to take on a survival trek to a moonbase or rescue point. After individuals have made their selections, the team member&#039;s each bring their list of preferred items prioritized and reach a consensus on a prioritized group list. Invariably, the group list is better aligned with NASA experts survival recommendations than any individual list.

The reason I bring this exercise up is that I believe the best civic or community decisions result from a healthy combination of individual learning/study of a problem or question and collaborative debate or consensus-seeking. I guess my point is that blogging does create a place for both and is a very healthy environment for civic discourse to peculate.

As for moderation, I think it is essential to have on blogs but also equally essential that it be barely noticeable and to the degree possible, enforced through automated mechanisms such as &quot;karma&quot; or other rating systems. If we can simply keep name calling and profanity off the table, the discussions tend to be very productive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t bring myself to express an opinion on climate change &#8211; perhaps it&#8217;s my green brain or just a short attention span or perhaps the unnerving sense that I am not qualified.</p>
<p>On the topic of communal decision making or perspectives versus individual ones, the classic problem-solving scenario is the team exercise where you are marooned on the moon. Used in business education and other team-building areas, the &#8220;game&#8221; requires that individual members of the team select the items from the marooned mooncraft&#8217;s inventory to take on a survival trek to a moonbase or rescue point. After individuals have made their selections, the team member&#8217;s each bring their list of preferred items prioritized and reach a consensus on a prioritized group list. Invariably, the group list is better aligned with NASA experts survival recommendations than any individual list.</p>
<p>The reason I bring this exercise up is that I believe the best civic or community decisions result from a healthy combination of individual learning/study of a problem or question and collaborative debate or consensus-seeking. I guess my point is that blogging does create a place for both and is a very healthy environment for civic discourse to peculate.</p>
<p>As for moderation, I think it is essential to have on blogs but also equally essential that it be barely noticeable and to the degree possible, enforced through automated mechanisms such as &#8220;karma&#8221; or other rating systems. If we can simply keep name calling and profanity off the table, the discussions tend to be very productive.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dem and Decatur Metro, both of you made excellent comments that I agree with 100%.  Like you, DM, I am gravely concerned about the depletion of our natural resources.  I believe that is a much more provable event and our efforts should be steered toward protecting those resources and taking full advantage of renewable ones.  Additionally, doing so will benefit GW/CC, assuming (and I&#039;m not) that it exists and human activity is contributing to it.

Dem, divorcing the conservation movement from the GW/CC argument is the right way to go.  While I love the idea of hybrid cars, every time I see a Prius, I can&#039;t help myself from wondering if they are truly trying to conserve resources or just wanting to be in the &quot;in&quot; crowd.

Rick, I am not religious; just about the furthest thing from it.  And I am from south Florida, where most of the people are transplanted northerners, so I&#039;m not sure it really counts as &quot;the south.&quot;  But you offensively dismiss a large number of wonderful and intelligent people who are religious and/or from the south.  Arguments about GW/CC should not be based on religion or location; they should be about science, and the ability to prove that 1) it is really happening and 2) human activity is causing it.  I&#039;m not sure how old you are, but I have enough years behind me to remember when people were obsessed about the approaching ice age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dem and Decatur Metro, both of you made excellent comments that I agree with 100%.  Like you, DM, I am gravely concerned about the depletion of our natural resources.  I believe that is a much more provable event and our efforts should be steered toward protecting those resources and taking full advantage of renewable ones.  Additionally, doing so will benefit GW/CC, assuming (and I&#8217;m not) that it exists and human activity is contributing to it.</p>
<p>Dem, divorcing the conservation movement from the GW/CC argument is the right way to go.  While I love the idea of hybrid cars, every time I see a Prius, I can&#8217;t help myself from wondering if they are truly trying to conserve resources or just wanting to be in the &#8220;in&#8221; crowd.</p>
<p>Rick, I am not religious; just about the furthest thing from it.  And I am from south Florida, where most of the people are transplanted northerners, so I&#8217;m not sure it really counts as &#8220;the south.&#8221;  But you offensively dismiss a large number of wonderful and intelligent people who are religious and/or from the south.  Arguments about GW/CC should not be based on religion or location; they should be about science, and the ability to prove that 1) it is really happening and 2) human activity is causing it.  I&#8217;m not sure how old you are, but I have enough years behind me to remember when people were obsessed about the approaching ice age.</p>
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		<title>By: dem</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2009/05/11/how-community-affects-decision-making/#comment-9396</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you.  I wish we had a conservation movement that was much more divorced from GW -- one that advocated using less resources because it makes so much sense from any perspective.  And while it&#039;s no secret that I am a fiscal conservative who pretty much hates taxes, I do favor a big fat gas tax to heavily incentivizes us to drive far more efficient cars and live closer to work.  Last year&#039;s proclamations about &quot;peak oil&quot; turned out to be wrong, which is kind of too bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you.  I wish we had a conservation movement that was much more divorced from GW &#8212; one that advocated using less resources because it makes so much sense from any perspective.  And while it&#8217;s no secret that I am a fiscal conservative who pretty much hates taxes, I do favor a big fat gas tax to heavily incentivizes us to drive far more efficient cars and live closer to work.  Last year&#8217;s proclamations about &#8220;peak oil&#8221; turned out to be wrong, which is kind of too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Decatur Metro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Decatur Metro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honestly, I&#039;m not sold on global warming either, probably because the zealotry in the movement scares me off.  And though if pressed I&#039;d come down as being better-safe-than-sorry, I&#039;m more concerned with the more tactile depletion of natural resources.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I&#8217;m not sold on global warming either, probably because the zealotry in the movement scares me off.  And though if pressed I&#8217;d come down as being better-safe-than-sorry, I&#8217;m more concerned with the more tactile depletion of natural resources.</p>
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