Comments on: 315 Goes Before City Commission Tonight

By: brian

brian — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:13:27 +0000

I’m new to this discussion. Could someone please summarize the development and it’s pros and cons? Will these be rental apartments? If so, what price level? Thanks.

By: David

David — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:53:45 +0000

Here’s an interesting article for your perusal
http://ezinearticles.com/?EIFS—How-Synthetic-Stucco-Can-Cause-Huge-Damage-to-Homes-Across-America&id=1664217

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 03:10:28 +0000

Who’s talking green, taxus? I don’t need to be called out because all I said is how to make real stucco. That’s not overextending anything.

If real stucco is what the neighbors negotiated, than EIFS doesn’t meet the terms. No matter how big of a fan you are. What’s so complicated about that?

By: David

David — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:43:49 +0000

It’s not stucco per se it’s what you put it over. Stucco is just an exterior coating.
All I know is if you get water behind EFIS, which almost always happens over time, you’ve got a problem. If you get water on CBS not so much.

CBS has a good R value too. And things like hail don’t punch right through it.

Plus EFIS looks cheap, cheap, cheap.

By: taxus

taxus — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:31:21 +0000

The real stucco vs EIFS debate is predicated on the past, failed use of EIFS at the ground contact level. In the past, the material was often specified below finished grade, thus inviting termites to find a path into the substrate behind the EIFS foam and substrate into the wood framing. It was a disaster and many lawsuits occured because of it.

Today, building codes require that EIFS must be held above the grade level.

The stucco in 315 is several stories above grade and therefore it doesn’t matter whether it is REAL stucco or EIFS.

In my opinion, EIFS would be better because has a higher R value which is actually GREENER than REAL STUCCO.

Real stucco is cheaper to apply and that is why the developer has proposed this material. SURPRISE!

Scott, I could call you out for overextending your intelligence on this subject, but I’m not, because you mean well. And that’s all that matters on this blog, right DM?

By: Scott

Scott — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:32:05 +0000

No worries. In my opinion, if that’s not what they get, then they’re being taken. The documents detailing the agreement between the developer and the neighborhood say “true stucco.” That ain’t EIFS.

By: Decatur Metro

Decatur Metro — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:29:45 +0000

I wonder if Baron might know…I’ll shoot him a note and point him to your question David.

By: david

david — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:25:34 +0000

Is that what they have to put on the upper story exteriors at 315? Of so where is this delineated in the commission decision?

Sorry if I’m not doing my research.