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> <channel><title>Comments on: Reminder: Annexation Joint Work Session Tonight at City Hall</title> <atom:link href="/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/</link> <description>Decatur Georgia News, Events, Atlanta News</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:14:15 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1</generator> <item><title>By: Steve</title><link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/#comment-4310</link> <dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:40:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.decaturmetro.com/?p=20705#comment-4310</guid> <description>taxus, it&#039;s really very easy to check up on the Active Living folks - they have a blog - http://decaturactiveliving.blogspot.com/.  Apparently you don&#039;t read the Decatur Focus either - it has a semi-annual catalog of their activities.  As you have in many other places, you&#039;re firing off without any research.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taxus, it&#8217;s really very easy to check up on the Active Living folks &#8211; they have a blog &#8211; <a
href="http://decaturactiveliving.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://decaturactiveliving.blogspot.com/</a>.  Apparently you don&#8217;t read the Decatur Focus either &#8211; it has a semi-annual catalog of their activities.  As you have in many other places, you&#8217;re firing off without any research.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: taxus</title><link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/#comment-4311</link> <dc:creator>taxus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.decaturmetro.com/?p=20705#comment-4311</guid> <description>CSD MomI hope you&#039;ll attend the Dec 1 public hearing on annexation and speak about your concerns.Annexation is an outgrowth of the problem - projected insufficient tax revenue.  So far, the Annexation Report says it&#039;s either do nothing and raise taxes, or annex and reap the rewards.  The rewards are posted in a chart posted later in the report.I question the numbers used in the chart.  For example, how can commercial expenses be the same as commercial/residential expenses?Please read the annexation report.  It is revealing and may provide you with questions that can be answered at the hearing.I am not addressing the problems with annexation perceived by CSD.  Others are all over that.  I am concerned  that the city is not giving due consideration at this time to reducing services OTHER than the school system.Did you know that we have an ACTIVE LIVING department within the City?  I believe there are seven employees.  It would be interesting to know what that is all about... what it costs, what are the benefits, is it a good value for the money spent, etc?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSD Mom</p><p>I hope you&#8217;ll attend the Dec 1 public hearing on annexation and speak about your concerns.</p><p>Annexation is an outgrowth of the problem &#8211; projected insufficient tax revenue.  So far, the Annexation Report says it&#8217;s either do nothing and raise taxes, or annex and reap the rewards.  The rewards are posted in a chart posted later in the report.</p><p>I question the numbers used in the chart.  For example, how can commercial expenses be the same as commercial/residential expenses?</p><p>Please read the annexation report.  It is revealing and may provide you with questions that can be answered at the hearing.</p><p>I am not addressing the problems with annexation perceived by CSD.  Others are all over that.  I am concerned  that the city is not giving due consideration at this time to reducing services OTHER than the school system.</p><p>Did you know that we have an ACTIVE LIVING department within the City?  I believe there are seven employees.  It would be interesting to know what that is all about&#8230; what it costs, what are the benefits, is it a good value for the money spent, etc?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CSD Mom</title><link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/#comment-4312</link> <dc:creator>CSD Mom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:50:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.decaturmetro.com/?p=20705#comment-4312</guid> <description>I&#039;m very concerned. I want to help. Just let me know what to do.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very concerned. I want to help. Just let me know what to do.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: taxus</title><link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/#comment-4313</link> <dc:creator>taxus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:05:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.decaturmetro.com/?p=20705#comment-4313</guid> <description>I guess you haven&#039;t heard that the superintendants goal is to have CSD in the top 10% of school systems nationally.I asked her how much she thought that might cost but she never got back to me.Enough about CSD.So taxes are going up if City of Decatur doesn&#039;t annex?  Well, blow me down!
* 50% vs 40% (elsewhere) assessment rate
* $25 million in brand spanking new bond revenue
* housing prices at historic highs resulting in commensurate valuations.Would one NOT conclude that this bodes well for City revenue stream?So, we are raising taxes, eh????What&#039;s wrong with this picture???I intend to find out.  I hope there are others out there who are just as concerned.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you haven&#8217;t heard that the superintendants goal is to have CSD in the top 10% of school systems nationally.</p><p>I asked her how much she thought that might cost but she never got back to me.</p><p>Enough about CSD.</p><p>So taxes are going up if City of Decatur doesn&#8217;t annex?  Well, blow me down!<br
/> * 50% vs 40% (elsewhere) assessment rate<br
/> * $25 million in brand spanking new bond revenue<br
/> * housing prices at historic highs resulting in commensurate valuations.</p><p>Would one NOT conclude that this bodes well for City revenue stream?</p><p>So, we are raising taxes, eh????</p><p>What&#8217;s wrong with this picture???</p><p>I intend to find out.  I hope there are others out there who are just as concerned.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MrFixIt</title><link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/#comment-4315</link> <dc:creator>MrFixIt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:15:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.decaturmetro.com/?p=20705#comment-4315</guid> <description>CSD Mom, we are already prepping the house in case we decide to move.  We figure if things go south - we are ready.  If not... well, the house looks a lot better.  We will have a kid in high school when all of this hits.. so we don&#039;t have time to play around while everyone figures out how to teach several hundred kids they have never met before.Few will pay a half million+ for a house and $10,000 per year in property taxes to attend an overcrowded, overwhelmed and, as a result, poorly performing school system.  We already nearly fail or actually fail AYP at a couple of schools each year.  This will take us over the top and send us down the NCLB road to Hades.The thing that was most disconcerting was that Ms. Merriss didn&#039;t even have figures on the revenue/costs/benefits of each segment and... get this... didn&#039;t even know how much the annexation increases the percentage of commercial to residential.   Just didn&#039;t know!  Apparently, her guesstimate (kinda like the latest number of student &quot;guesstimate&quot;) is that it increases the percentage of commercial from about 14% to 16%.   I&#039;m not sure if that figure is with or without the residential south of College.  I don&#039;t think she made that distinction.I&#039;m really concerned that this whole thing is being done in a very footloose and fancy free manner.  I&#039;d be disappointed if the Commission was willing to move forward with the shoddy reports and estimates that they have been burdened with.Bill Floyd did say that Decatur would be fine with or without the annexation.  That was about the first thing out of his mouth at the beginning of the work session.   The tax savings looked like they would be about $700ish for an owner of a $350K house, assuming that the reality of the annexation blends perfectly with the projections.  I still don&#039;t get why we are going into this uncharted territory (it could be charted but no ones seems to want to bother) for a 2% increase in commercial.I wonder if anyone has ever considered the possibility that perhaps the best move for CSD in all of this is to just merge with the county system.  I know that this sounds radical and I know DeKalb County Schools has its issues.  However, CSD has been in a constant state of alarm since we move here a decade ago.  They are constantly in dire straits... constantly on the edge of a cliff and about to drop into the great abyss.   There have also been constant changes and constant instability.  I know I&#039;ll get flamed for this... but it&#039;s not a bad mental exercise to think it through.  It would be interesting to ponder - even as just an academic question.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSD Mom, we are already prepping the house in case we decide to move.  We figure if things go south &#8211; we are ready.  If not&#8230; well, the house looks a lot better.  We will have a kid in high school when all of this hits.. so we don&#8217;t have time to play around while everyone figures out how to teach several hundred kids they have never met before.</p><p>Few will pay a half million+ for a house and $10,000 per year in property taxes to attend an overcrowded, overwhelmed and, as a result, poorly performing school system.  We already nearly fail or actually fail AYP at a couple of schools each year.  This will take us over the top and send us down the NCLB road to Hades.</p><p>The thing that was most disconcerting was that Ms. Merriss didn&#8217;t even have figures on the revenue/costs/benefits of each segment and&#8230; get this&#8230; didn&#8217;t even know how much the annexation increases the percentage of commercial to residential.   Just didn&#8217;t know!  Apparently, her guesstimate (kinda like the latest number of student &#8220;guesstimate&#8221;) is that it increases the percentage of commercial from about 14% to 16%.   I&#8217;m not sure if that figure is with or without the residential south of College.  I don&#8217;t think she made that distinction.</p><p>I&#8217;m really concerned that this whole thing is being done in a very footloose and fancy free manner.  I&#8217;d be disappointed if the Commission was willing to move forward with the shoddy reports and estimates that they have been burdened with.</p><p>Bill Floyd did say that Decatur would be fine with or without the annexation.  That was about the first thing out of his mouth at the beginning of the work session.   The tax savings looked like they would be about $700ish for an owner of a $350K house, assuming that the reality of the annexation blends perfectly with the projections.  I still don&#8217;t get why we are going into this uncharted territory (it could be charted but no ones seems to want to bother) for a 2% increase in commercial.</p><p>I wonder if anyone has ever considered the possibility that perhaps the best move for CSD in all of this is to just merge with the county system.  I know that this sounds radical and I know DeKalb County Schools has its issues.  However, CSD has been in a constant state of alarm since we move here a decade ago.  They are constantly in dire straits&#8230; constantly on the edge of a cliff and about to drop into the great abyss.   There have also been constant changes and constant instability.  I know I&#8217;ll get flamed for this&#8230; but it&#8217;s not a bad mental exercise to think it through.  It would be interesting to ponder &#8211; even as just an academic question.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CSD Mom</title><link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/#comment-4314</link> <dc:creator>CSD Mom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:27:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.decaturmetro.com/?p=20705#comment-4314</guid> <description>The school system will not even remotely resemble its current state if this annexation goes through. And when the school system is not there (in terms of being a great system), the housing prices will certainly fall. This city will completely change within 1-2 years.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The school system will not even remotely resemble its current state if this annexation goes through. And when the school system is not there (in terms of being a great system), the housing prices will certainly fall. This city will completely change within 1-2 years.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: david</title><link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/#comment-4323</link> <dc:creator>david</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:41:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.decaturmetro.com/?p=20705#comment-4323</guid> <description>Hmm,,, let me see...now the people that build schools and such get to write the report on how annexation will impact the community...and they under play it.
Then when you have more people to take care of who&#039;s right there with a plan for the new schools you&#039;ll need?
Why Rosser of course!Wish my clients would do that. But then I don&#039;t work much for government.Oh and what happened to the the 315 report? I thought it was going to be out in 2 weeks and it&#039;s been a month.I&#039;m really getting a bad feeling about this.Hey but Obama won so everythings going to be alright!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm,,, let me see&#8230;now the people that build schools and such get to write the report on how annexation will impact the community&#8230;and they under play it.<br
/> Then when you have more people to take care of who&#8217;s right there with a plan for the new schools you&#8217;ll need?<br
/> Why Rosser of course!</p><p>Wish my clients would do that. But then I don&#8217;t work much for government.</p><p>Oh and what happened to the the 315 report? I thought it was going to be out in 2 weeks and it&#8217;s been a month.</p><p>I&#8217;m really getting a bad feeling about this.</p><p>Hey but Obama won so everythings going to be alright!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Decatur Metro</title><link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/11/17/reminder-annexation-joint-work-session-tonight-at-city-hall/#comment-4322</link> <dc:creator>Decatur Metro</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:19:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.decaturmetro.com/?p=20705#comment-4322</guid> <description>Judd, the report does say Nov. 17th, but it was later confirmed by the city that the commission told the city manager that they needed more time....so the schedule was revised and the decision was pushed back a month.  You&#039;ll find it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/10/28/annexation-schedule/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.I hope we all get some answers tonight.  Please feel free to follow up with your observations in the morning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judd, the report does say Nov. 17th, but it was later confirmed by the city that the commission told the city manager that they needed more time&#8230;.so the schedule was revised and the decision was pushed back a month.  You&#8217;ll find it <a
href="http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/10/28/annexation-schedule/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><p>I hope we all get some answers tonight.  Please feel free to follow up with your observations in the morning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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