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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/01/26/when-liberals-fight/#comment-330</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to disagree with Peter who thinks it&#039;s OK to let dogs loose in a public park.  Too many times at Mason Mill and Stone Mountain I&#039;ve been &quot;challenged&quot; by a growling barking off leash dog protecting it&#039;s owners. I&#039;m a trail runner, mountain biker and hiker and think dogs should be on leashes.

This might be part of the opposition&#039;s undisclosed motives against the PATH in Mason Mill. They&#039;ve adopted it as their very own personal dog park and don&#039;t want the intervention of any of those annoying rules that make it safe for others.

Medlock resident since 1988.

Also as a footnote. Calling any of those trees back there &quot;old growth&quot; only shows ignorance .  The area was logged like almost all of the south around the turn of the last century.  If you want to see old growth go to the Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest in NC. Old growth trees are MUCH bigger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with Peter who thinks it&#8217;s OK to let dogs loose in a public park.  Too many times at Mason Mill and Stone Mountain I&#8217;ve been &#8220;challenged&#8221; by a growling barking off leash dog protecting it&#8217;s owners. I&#8217;m a trail runner, mountain biker and hiker and think dogs should be on leashes.</p>
<p>This might be part of the opposition&#8217;s undisclosed motives against the PATH in Mason Mill. They&#8217;ve adopted it as their very own personal dog park and don&#8217;t want the intervention of any of those annoying rules that make it safe for others.</p>
<p>Medlock resident since 1988.</p>
<p>Also as a footnote. Calling any of those trees back there &#8220;old growth&#8221; only shows ignorance .  The area was logged like almost all of the south around the turn of the last century.  If you want to see old growth go to the Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest in NC. Old growth trees are MUCH bigger.</p>
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		<title>By: Slow</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/01/26/when-liberals-fight/#comment-329</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am waiting to see whether the trail will be a net plus or minus, but I did want to  respond to those who say that it is something recently &quot;sprung&quot; on the neighborhood:  we moved out of the Medlock area several years ago, but as far back as the mid-90&#039;s there were neighborhood meetings with PATH about this project.  I remember one meeting that I attended at the Mason Mill library in about 1997 at which Ed McBreyer, PATH president, did a presentation on the trail.

A bit more history:  As another poster noted, this property has been threatened with residential development.  I remember in about 91-92, there was talk that it would be declared &quot;surplus&quot; by the County and sold.  As I recall, that triggered the initial push by some Medlock and Mason Mill neighborhood residents to have the land &quot;reactivated&quot; as a County-maintained park, with &quot;developed&quot; park amenities.   I believe that it was this push that eventually led to some neighborhood residents asking PATH to get involved in the mid 90&#039;s.

Although people who currently oppose the PATH say that the Medlock and Mason Mill neighborhoods have always cherished the land in its &quot;wild&quot; state, that is not entirely correct.  The area in the 90&#039;s periodically had encampments of homeless people.  I hesitate to speak for the entire area, but at the time I believe that many of my Medlock neighbors thought the wild land was a source of crime and a liability to the neighborhood, not an asset.

And a final point:  I am puzzled by the Medlock residents who are up in arms about the trail and mourning the lost of &quot;their&quot; woodland.   Except for the few people whose houses backed up to the land, access to the land from the Medlock neighborhood was quite difficult.  It either involved cutting through several people&#039;s back yards along the creek, or hiking in on a power line right of way and squeezing through a fence.  Accessing the land without trespassing involved driving all the way around to Mason Mill Road -- about 1 1/2 miles from Medlock, mostly along 4-lane Clairmont road which at the time did not have sidewalks.  My observation was that Medlock residents did not use the land much at all; I believe that I was one of the few.  (Many of my neighbors actively avoided the land because of the perceived threat from the &quot;hobos.&quot;)  If nothing else, the trail is going to make the land accessible to all the surrounding neighborhoods, including Medlock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am waiting to see whether the trail will be a net plus or minus, but I did want to  respond to those who say that it is something recently &#8220;sprung&#8221; on the neighborhood:  we moved out of the Medlock area several years ago, but as far back as the mid-90&#8217;s there were neighborhood meetings with PATH about this project.  I remember one meeting that I attended at the Mason Mill library in about 1997 at which Ed McBreyer, PATH president, did a presentation on the trail.</p>
<p>A bit more history:  As another poster noted, this property has been threatened with residential development.  I remember in about 91-92, there was talk that it would be declared &#8220;surplus&#8221; by the County and sold.  As I recall, that triggered the initial push by some Medlock and Mason Mill neighborhood residents to have the land &#8220;reactivated&#8221; as a County-maintained park, with &#8220;developed&#8221; park amenities.   I believe that it was this push that eventually led to some neighborhood residents asking PATH to get involved in the mid 90&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Although people who currently oppose the PATH say that the Medlock and Mason Mill neighborhoods have always cherished the land in its &#8220;wild&#8221; state, that is not entirely correct.  The area in the 90&#8217;s periodically had encampments of homeless people.  I hesitate to speak for the entire area, but at the time I believe that many of my Medlock neighbors thought the wild land was a source of crime and a liability to the neighborhood, not an asset.</p>
<p>And a final point:  I am puzzled by the Medlock residents who are up in arms about the trail and mourning the lost of &#8220;their&#8221; woodland.   Except for the few people whose houses backed up to the land, access to the land from the Medlock neighborhood was quite difficult.  It either involved cutting through several people&#8217;s back yards along the creek, or hiking in on a power line right of way and squeezing through a fence.  Accessing the land without trespassing involved driving all the way around to Mason Mill Road &#8212; about 1 1/2 miles from Medlock, mostly along 4-lane Clairmont road which at the time did not have sidewalks.  My observation was that Medlock residents did not use the land much at all; I believe that I was one of the few.  (Many of my neighbors actively avoided the land because of the perceived threat from the &#8220;hobos.&#8221;)  If nothing else, the trail is going to make the land accessible to all the surrounding neighborhoods, including Medlock.</p>
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		<title>By: peter schelhorn</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/01/26/when-liberals-fight/#comment-328</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love Mason Mill Park and visit it on a weekly basis. If you haven&#039;t seen it, you should. An undisturbed piece of wilderness hidden away in central Dekalb. You can walk 3 or more miles on the many trails, up and down hills, visit streams, beaver ponds, and the ruins of the water works. But the best part is the dogs. This is the place that people bring their dogs and turn them free. Nearly everyone has at least one dog. This is the place that dogs need and once introduced, cannot live without. A glorious romp in the woods. The destruction by PATH to this point is almost unimaginable. They are logging and laying down an extensive road to give access to the large bulldosers and grading machines which they will need for the project. The road built to date does not even follow the line of the eventual &quot;trail&quot;. The &quot;trail&quot; will be 12 feet wide. No one who I encountered at the park last Sunday could believe what they had seen, nor could they make any sense out of the concept behind it. You should visit this park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Mason Mill Park and visit it on a weekly basis. If you haven&#8217;t seen it, you should. An undisturbed piece of wilderness hidden away in central Dekalb. You can walk 3 or more miles on the many trails, up and down hills, visit streams, beaver ponds, and the ruins of the water works. But the best part is the dogs. This is the place that people bring their dogs and turn them free. Nearly everyone has at least one dog. This is the place that dogs need and once introduced, cannot live without. A glorious romp in the woods. The destruction by PATH to this point is almost unimaginable. They are logging and laying down an extensive road to give access to the large bulldosers and grading machines which they will need for the project. The road built to date does not even follow the line of the eventual &#8220;trail&#8221;. The &#8220;trail&#8221; will be 12 feet wide. No one who I encountered at the park last Sunday could believe what they had seen, nor could they make any sense out of the concept behind it. You should visit this park.</p>
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		<title>By: Sage</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/01/26/when-liberals-fight/#comment-317</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the subdivision at the end of Superior use to belong to that tract of land too. It would be nice if it remained undeveloped, but you have to understand the power of real estate developers in this town.
And you&#039;re comparing Medlock Park to Edgewood? Really?
Look at the Silver Comet trail this spring and tell me who you see......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the subdivision at the end of Superior use to belong to that tract of land too. It would be nice if it remained undeveloped, but you have to understand the power of real estate developers in this town.<br />
And you&#8217;re comparing Medlock Park to Edgewood? Really?<br />
Look at the Silver Comet trail this spring and tell me who you see&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.decaturmetro.com/2008/01/26/when-liberals-fight/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If &quot;the PATH is mainly for children,&quot; I&#039;ve missed them all.  Indeed, I certainly wouldn&#039;t want a child taking the PATH through Edgewood!  I know serious runners who avoid parts of the PATH in DeKalb due to perceived safety issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;the PATH is mainly for children,&#8221; I&#8217;ve missed them all.  Indeed, I certainly wouldn&#8217;t want a child taking the PATH through Edgewood!  I know serious runners who avoid parts of the PATH in DeKalb due to perceived safety issues.</p>
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