Free-For-All Friday 11/4/16
Decatur Metro | November 4, 2016 | 7:14 amFeel free to use this post to make comments and ask questions about local issues not yet discussed here over the past week.
Feel free to use this post to make comments and ask questions about local issues not yet discussed here over the past week.
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This is early isn’t?
Nah, it’s just been posted late the last 6 months or so. 🙂
DM – what’s the record for post the FFAF? I think you might hit it with this one.
Not even close.
http://www.decaturmetro.com/2010/08/27/dollar-general-coming-to-oakhurst/
FFAF’s used to regularly hit 100-200 every week a few years back. But yes, the Dollar General post is the comment record.
Anyone willing to share their source for a good, fresh turkey?
i’ve seen some walking around arcadia just south of college.
Catch one for me, please! Thanks.
You don’t “catch” turkeys…
Last day for early voting. If you haven’t yet, you should!
I know a couple of people who regret voting early given recent news/reaffirmations that neither candidate is “good people” . They may not necessarily vote for the other candidate if they had waited, but would consider a third party candidate or “None of the Above”.
I read somewhere that an early vote could be changed by the person voting on Election Day. I have no idea if that is true. Does anyone know? GA does not allow changing of early votes as some states (NC, WI) allow.
Seven states allow this. Georgia isn’t one of them.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-election-day/early-voters-changing-ballots-isn-t-easy-n677081
There is no late news that would change the fact that Donald Trump is the least qualified and most profoundly ignorant major-party candidate in history. Or change the fact that he has enthusiastic support from the KKK and other racist organizations, has threatned to jail or sue his poltical enemies, and has admitted to sexual assault. To paraphase that nutjob, unless Clinton admits to murdering someone on Fifth Ave., it’s not even close as to who should be the next President.
don’t do that here – a) you’re wrong and B) you’re not going to change anyone’s mind
Which of those statements is wrong? Point me to a more ignorant nominee in U.S. history. Tell me that he isn’t beloved by racists. That he hasn’t threatened to sue people for criticizing him. I will slightly modify one statement: he actually BRAGGED about committing sexual assault, not merely admitted to it.
Oh, and these kind of bullying tactics carried out by Chris Christie’s (Trump’s close ally) administration will be child’s play compared to a Trump administration: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/two-former-christie-allies-found-guilty-on-all-counts-in-bridgegate-trial-230736
Not arguing you criticisms of Trump, nor am I going to defend or support him. But “it’s not even close as to who should be the next President” is flat-out wrong. There are a whole host of reasons why Hillary shouldn’t be the next President, including the fact that she will be embroiled in an ongoing criminal investigation (assuming Obama doesn’t pardon her as his last official act). And don’t ignore the mounting evidence that she, while serving as Sec. of State, sold access to the State Dept. to foreign countries, corporations and individuals. I could list other reasons, but as G Buck noted, what’s the point? I am not going to convince you or anyone else. Never in the history of this country have we collectively nominated 2 individuals who have no business in the Oval Office. You may not have liked the other candidate in years past (or, in the case of many liberals I know, actively hated the other candidate (Bush)) for policy, qualification or personality reasons, but the current slate is nothing short of pathetic and embarrassing. If this is the best we can collectively do, we have serious problems.
“including the fact that she will be embroiled in an ongoing criminal investigation”
Says who? There has been no statement that the new emails changed anything. And are you aware Trump faces a civil court date next month on allegations that he raped a child in 1994? Gary Johnson rightly pointed this out here a few days ago (if only he had been more incisive in other matters he’s been questioned about).
If only he, Gov. Gary Johnson as a candidate on all 50 ballots, had been the opportunity to answer the same questions during three national debates.
Ditto. I would have like to have seen Gary Johnson not know the answers to some more questions.
Yes, answering correctly or being fact-checked as being incorrect is far better than being denied a voice on the national stage when you are a candidate for president in all 50 states. Thank you for your support.
I do find it interesting that, in the same week Gary Johnson pointed out Trump will be in court over child rape, his running mate William Weld essentially endorsed Clinton.
I considered voting for Johnson, but with Georgia polls within the margin of error I opted to do my small part in preventing a Trump reign. I was bothered by his inability to answer some pretty basic questions though (basic if you want to be President). I guess I give him credit for not to pretending to know the answer like Trump does on many questions. Still, his apparent ignorance was pretty similar to that of Palin’s in 2008 and she has never recovered from it.
It’s fine if you want to put Clinton in the Bush category (W, not HW who is voting for Clinton btw, had most of his administration on a private server and 22 million emails disappeared, but somehow Clinton’s misdeeds are far worse), but Trump is a whole another matter, and that’s evident in the significant number of prominent Republicans who refuse to endorse him and in many cases are supporting Clinton.
Please re-read the first sentence of my post where I stated I wasn’t defending or supporting Trump.
PS. Obviously you weren’t talking about HW as his presidency predated Gore’s invention of the internet.
“including the fact that she will be embroiled in an ongoing criminal investigation”
Translation: A Clinton presidency will result in the Republican Congressional caucus resuming its self-perceived role as solely an investigative body, instead of the legislative one it was elected to be.
Yep and now this from the FBI:
https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/795360399948390405
In truth, I was just goading you to help make my point. You’re looking for an argument, and this isn’t the forum.
Usually that’s out behind the gym after school. But since they’re both unpleasant (at best), it’s hardly worth fighting to defend either one.
Let’s argue about the toy park again. Or the danger art in Oakhurst.
erm….”Free-For-All”??
I do agree with you that nobody’s mind is likely to be changed here. Nor should an announcement that lacked any meaningful information change anyone’s mind.
Untrue. I’ve changed my mind seven times while reading this conversation.
I’ll take crude over criminal any day.
Especially when it touches my hard earned tax dollars and national security.
Clinton hasn’t been charged with any crime much less convicted of one. And the sexual assault Trump bragged about is more than crude, it’s criminal. And Trump is a complete idiot when it comes to national security. People are right to be afraid of a man who is baited by tweets.
So you’re comparing a former Ms. Universe interview with the FBI departmental investigation? Really? Trumps stuff is crude but a lot of he said, she said IMHO since no one filed any charges. FBI doesn’t deal with he said, she said but if it does, shame on BoB for allowing to happen in his 8 year tenure. I’m more afraid of permitting two criminals in the White House. Sex with an intern and lying about it and then her standing by him and turning the other cheek? Two peas in a pod. I’ll take the devil I don’t know over the two I have seen operate. Next week’s Free For All Friday should be interesting.
Again, Hillary Clinton hasn’t been charged with any crime. Nor has Trump, but he did brag about committing sexual assault. That’s not “locker room talk” …and frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if he did rape a 13 year old child as witnesses have alleged.
Believe me, I am not a Trump supporter nor do I condone his comments. However, he said “they let me…” because he is a celebrity. “Let me” is not assault. He was making a point about how women let celebrities do whatever they want. I’m not agreeing with him, but what he said was not bragging about “sexually assaulting” women. I know I will get heat for this, but just stating the facts.
And again, to be clear, I hate the guy.
Yeah, no.
He said they let you get away with it. I’m guessing some of the younger ones let him get away with it out of fear. It’s well documented that Trump will use threats to try to silence critics and accusers.
“when you’re a star, they let you do it.”
He also said he didn’t even wait for permission. Just because they chose not to press charges doesn’t mean the act wouldn’t be assault if they had.
He said nothing about “permission.” You are making an assumption about that. You are also making an assumption that by “they let me”, he means they didn’t press charges. He could just as easily meant that “they let me and liked it.” Which is what I think he was saying.
If I was on a date and went in for a kiss, would I have sexually assaulted her if she didn’t want to kiss me but didn’t back away and let me?
Again, not condoning, but people are going to take the statement at it’s worst when they don’t like the guy. Had Obama said the same, many of you would be making excuses.
So the numerous women who claim he did exactly what he bragged about doing are just liars. Got it. Please don’t compare Obama, a gentleman, with that pig. Hate his policies all you want, but Obama is a decent man. Trump could not be hired at most corporations in this country.
Yup, that’s exactly what I said. Good job.
Nor did I compare the two.
Sexual assault turns on consent, and it’s not on whether the particular grabber thinks the grabbee “let[s] them do it,” it’s whether a reasonable person would think the grabbee consented. A reasonable person would know grabbing a p**** without asking is unwanted and offensive. In addition, 12 women have accused him of unwanted sexual assault. DT’s twisted view of his conduct doesn’t make it not sexual assault. He doesn’t have to believe the activity he’s describing to be a crime for it to be sexual assault.
I agree with this “silver lining” :
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/the-best-thing-trump-did-for-america/506702/
The reaction of the victim does not determine the nature of the behavior.
It is a woeful understatement to characterize Trump as simply crude when he openly campaigns based on hatred and prejudice, publically brags about sexually assaulting women (yes, “grabbing them by the…” IS assault), and has been the subject of countless law suits and civil actions. Crude is picking your nose in public, not labeling Mexicans as “criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.” or advocating torture that violates the Genneva Convention. Crude is passing gas at the dinner table, not saying it’s ok to refer to his daughter as a “piece of a–” or mocking a reporter with a disability. His temperament, disdain for nearly anyone who isn’t a rich white man, his open bigotry/racism/sexism/classism and utter inexperience with political leadership on any level, let alone the international stage, render him so unfit to be the President of the United States that it’s frankly absurd that this is even a conversation. He has been endorsed by the KKK, but only a handful of newspapers, one of which is The National Enquirer.
You can say you support his policies (though these certainly don’t appear to be consistent, or even remotely transparent) but to accept him as fit to be president is beyond my comprehension. You say you’d rather have the devil you don’t know over one you do? I’d say we have more than sufficient evidence as to what kind of devil he is, and it’s downright terrifying.
And yes, there are criminal issues as well.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/donald-trump-scandals/474726/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melissa-bartick/trumps-criminal-history-s_b_11983400.html
If Obama had cozied up to Putin the way Trump has, John McCain and others would have screamed for his impeachment. Some credit to Lindsey Graham and others for acknowledging what a disaster Trump is for Republicans (especially if he wins).
They are both disasters. Tuesday will be a sad sad day no matter what.
Don’t start with the “bothsiderism”. Hilary has the spine and the moral sensibility to argue Trump’s faults. None of the 16 other members of the “deep bench” of what passes for Republican talent in the primaries could handle it.
Nonetheless, she is still awful.
And speaking of McCain, this time positively, compare his shutting down of a woman at his rally in 2008 for making racist comments about Obama with Trump’s behavior at his rallys, where he’s mocked a disabled person, incited violence, links to white supremacists, promised to “loosen libel laws” so he can sue his critics more easily, and on and on.
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a47407/american-nazi-party-supports-trump/
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/donald-trump-libel-laws-219866
I’m surprised DM let you call a candidate a name like “ignorant” and a “nut job”. When I tried that my post got deleted. 🙁
Were you talking about Trump or Clinton? The answer may explain why your post got deleted .
omg this site is so rigged!!1!
I was talking ill about Trump, Clinton, and Johnson!
I don’t care when you vote but: no vote, no complaining! And remember that you can have a huge impact on local votes, e.g. candidates, amendments.
People say that all the time – “if you don’t vote, you can’t complain” – and I hate it. It has never made any sense to me. Somebody who doesn’t vote has an equal right to complain as someone who did vote and the non-voter’s complaints are no less valid simply because they didn’t vote. If that individual knew that his/her single vote would change the outcome of the election, but didn’t vote and then complained about the outcome, then that would be very different. That is not the case, though. Frankly, whether I voted and who I voted for simply should not matter in the credence given to my complaints.
I should have been more specific, I suppose, and said “don’t complain to me even though freedom of speech allows you to complain in general.” Seriously, your one vote may not change the outcome of a presidential election in an overwhelmingly blue or overwhelmingly red state but there’s all the local candidates and items for which your vote clearly makes a difference. Plus who knows how the election is going this year–it’s so wacky that individual votes may very well make a difference in places they never did before. Plus I believe that your individual vote sends a message even if a presidential candidate loses your state’s electoral votes–a 51%/49% split indicates that 49% of the voters do NOT support the winner and sends a very different message than a 80%/20% split. Plus there’s a passivity and disengagement to not voting that worries me. You may have the most valid complaint in the world but it can be completely ignored unless you participate in the legal and political process.
On the other hand, anyone voting against the candidates and issues I support should stay home and complain a lot! 🙂
Oh dear, not good press for Decatur’s early voting location….
http://www.myajc.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/ga-mother-unable-to-vote-because-her-crying-child-/ns3kP/
Especially surprising since the line is short and fast-moving there. It’s not like folks in line would have to listen to 3 hours worth of screaming. I wish someone could have whipped out their smartphone and pulled up a popular toddler video to calm the little one. Or a sippy cup with applejuice. Or goldfish.
Idea for League of Women Voters: pop-up short-term babysitting services next to polling places! Throw in pop-up elder care for those voters with relatives who cannot be left alone. Pop-up sports bars for those spouses who are hard to tear from the couch.
I have brought my children at all ages to the polls until they were too old to be willing to be seen with me. Since turnout is usually abysmally low, we never had a problem with long lines and tantrums.
Back when our polling place was St. Thomas More (now it’s First Christian) I took my then 3 year old with me to vote. I was the only one there. I turned my back on him for two seconds and he climbed up onto a metal folding chair, which tipped over with the loudest crash ever onto the tile floor. He wasn’t hurt, but I was mortified and the poll workers gave me the stinkeye. They didn’t make me leave, though.
That 3 year old is going to be voting in his first election next week. We didn’t vote early, because I wanted him to go with me on Election Day. The last time I voted, the poll workers told me they make a big deal out of first time voters. He’s going to be the one embarrassed this time! 😉
I was voting at the time of the crying kid…to me it was not that big of a deal. The little kid was definitely not happy, but it didn’t bother me. Maybe cause I am used to it….
It’s time for my once/decade suit upgrade. Any local recommendations? I’ve often gone to JoS A Banks due to their chronic sales, but the sales people can’t stop trying to upsell me on shirts and ties, and I find it annoying.
I have a good idea of what I want in terms of cut/fit/style and cost/materials and don’t need someone to size me up.
Not local, but I’ve had good luck buying suits at Macy’s. Nice selection and great prices.
Agree! The Lenox location has great service, reasonable prices and a huge selection. AND the shirts/ties are on a completely different floor so no danger of upselling!
You don’t say what that good idea of cut/fit/style and cost/materials is, or what your cost per wear goal is, so I’ll offer you some options:
High: Sid Mashburn. Unreal service, tailoring, materials. Yeah, those prices are unreal too, but if you wait for one of their twice-yearly sales, you can ease some of the pain.
Mid: JCrew. Surprisingly well made for the $$. Don’t know about their tailoring skills. Nordstrom is worth a look too.
Low: Finder’s Keepers men’s boutique. They have good selection of suits and much of it is good quality and current. You can take it to your tailor to perfect the fit and still have budget left over spend on wildly colored cravats!!
I don’t own any Sid Mashburn suits, but my understanding is that they have a very definite house style when it comes to fit, which is quite modern — very slim fitting and short, especially as to trousers. Not the best look for everyone.
As for chains and off the rack options, I would recommend Suit Supply over Jos A Bank or Macy’s. They have a fairly wide range of models, and though several are quite slim, you can find a suit to fit any build. And the materials and quality of construction really are quite nice for the price (generally under $1,000, often significantly so). Some of their models at the higher end offer full canvassed jackets, which (in my view) is worth the extra $$.
Good luck.
Another vote for Macy’s. And if you happen to use Discover Card, it’s 5 % cash back at department stores right now.
I am surprised you endorsed Macy’s. Don’t they carry Trump’s line of clothing?
Not anymore.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/12/why-we-dropped-trumps-menswear-line-macys-ceo.html
Still, just to be on the safe side, maybe you should check your closet to make sure you don’t own a Trump tie or two!
Ha! Truth is I couldn’t stand Trump long before he ran for President, even before his birther idiocy that established his political reputation. The man’s a slimeball. I mean, who talks about their daughter’s body the way has? But before he was just a creepy guy who, to paraphrase someone whose name eludes me, was “a poor person’s idea of a successful businessman”. Now he’s frightening.
That is good news. In typical Trump fashion (pun intended), he calls for a boycott of Macy’s. Honestly, I don’t think that would amount to a hill of beans since most Rump supporters couldn’t afford to shop at Macy’s. Yes, I am judging.
Somewhat of a myth that his core supporters are struggling that much financially. From a lot of reading I’ve done their main common denominator is a peculiar resentment that centers around political correctness (for ex. resenting having to “push one for English” and resenting not being able to complain about it without being criticized).
Now his hotels and resorts are another matter, and the demographic for them is decidedly not his base. They are already losing business as the name Trump increasingly becomes toxic.
Unfortunately, I don’t have to read the stats — I personally know four. Each of them could not be any more different demographically. They do have their own major gripes, but the one common denominator is that Hillary is a crook. The racist rhetoric appeals to about three. Extreme nationalist for about two. Sadest fact of all — one is a woman who actually worked on his campaign.
If any of this micro-stat means anything, only one would have been a likely Macy shopper.
Hope none of the ones know you know are prone to using violence against dissenters, as many at his rallies are. Compare this to how a Trump supporter at a Clinton rally was treated, as Obama wouldn’t even allow the man to be shouted down, much less attacked as this Republican against Trump was yesterday:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-protester-center-security-scare-held-simple-sign/story?id=43338903
If you don’t mind wading through tons of bad suits to find a few good ones, K&G has great prices.
Suit Supply next to Lennox Mall. Boyfriend was in the same situation, had heard good things, said he was in and out in 15 minutes. Very pleased.
True story: Upon exiting the changing room and handing the fellow helping me with my purchase, I was steered over to a table with pocket squares, neckties and — dig this — cravats in color combinations that would make Prince blush.
I guess I’ll step up.
I voted last week kvelling with pride to cast my ballot for the first woman candidate nominated by a major party. I didn’t know I would live to see this. My mother was born in an America where women had no right to vote. We are living in a better world today. #SolidarityThroughSisterhood
Oh, you mean we shouldn’t go back to a “greater America” when women couldn’t vote? You mean the Trump supporters who want to repeal the 19th amendment because their candidate is a misogynist are wrong?
Seriously, Parker Cross, I’m taking some solace in early indicators that women are voting in higher numbers than men compared to past elections.
I’m definitely pro woman in leadership. I’ve worked for several truly excellent women in high, corporate executive roles. I would gladly have voted for, say, Condi Rice or Carly Fiorina for president.
But HRC – good god, no! What a sadness that she’s going to be the first female president. As comparison, I disagree completely with Elizabeth Warren on policy, but at least she’s just wrong, not corrupt, self serving and criminal. Even she, who I would still oppose, I wouldn’t resent and despise.
In hindsight, HRC’s election will be a low point for the Republic.
To the extent that the things you say about Clinton are true, Trump is much worse: more corrupt, more self-serving, much more dishonest (almost everything he says in stump speeches is a lie; he even lies about his own ridiculous tweets that he sends out in the middle of the night). And on top of his yuge character flaws, he’s obviously ignorant regarding most policy issues (even his signature one, trade–or at least he pretends to be ignorant.) And perhaps most chillingly, he’s got massive support from racist organizations who are threatening violence if the election doesn’t go their way (threats he’s not only not dissuaded, but has encouraged).
if we’re doing political posts, please educate yourself on the ballot initiatives and vote. As a lawyer, I am strongly encouraging people to vote NO on Amendment 3. An independent, ethical judiciary is critical to democracy. Our Judicial Qualifications Commission has done an excellent job for the most part of disciplining judges who were unethical, committed crimes or engaged in other misbehavior. Amendment 3 would politicize this process and bring the legislature into it, which is a bad idea.
It’s an embarrassment that such a nakedly personal vendetta made it onto the ballot in the first place.
who’s the person?
Johnnie Caldwell, Jr. — removed from the bench for misconduct, then got elected to the state House and is going after his oppressors. The amendment doesn’t even propose any sort of structural change to the makeup of the board, it just asserts the right of the legislature to clean it out at its whim.
http://www.myajc.com/news/news/local/is-effort-to-replace-judicial-watchdog-needed-or-p/nsqxT/
case closed: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/06/politics/comey-tells-congress-fbi-has-not-changed-conclusions/index.html
and
CASE CLOSED:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-06/trump-is-disqualified-for-his-interest-in-using-nuclear-weapons