What’s With Long Tardy Slip Lines at Decatur High School?
Decatur Metro | August 17, 2011A Decatur High School parent wrote in the other day…
My two high school students have reported that DHS is having massive lines of kids waiting for “tardy slips” in the morning. One morning kid #1 was not in his seat when the 8:00am bell rang, sent to attendance office, stood in line for 15-20 minutes, BUT the line behind him was out the front door. He estimated 50 kids behind him. Other child reports kids showing up at the very end of first period this week, with several saying they had to stand in long lines for “tardy slips.”
With the DHS start time moved up to 8:00, is anyone tracking the consequences???
Asst. Superintendent Thomas Van Soelen provided this explanation…
DHS is teaching a life skill about being punctual (see Maureen Downey’s editorial in the AJC). This isn’t a new lesson to be taught at DHS, but the follow-through is more complete this year. Thus, it is hard to compare last year’s data to this year’s. A more streamlined process has been developed at the attendance office to get kids to classes further. For instance, on 8/15, the line had dissipated by 8:15.
Beware kids! 5 tardies mean that they get the “permanent record” out and make a medium sized black mark.
I think all the issues are mixed up and the CSD response depends on the situation of the day–life lessons vs. how the teenage brain sleeps and learns vs. bus schedules vs. athletics/clubs. I can tell you that lots of 4/5 parents are saying that their children are getting home on that bus schedule late, tired, and not eager to cram in homework in the short spaces before dinner and bed. I’ll bet the teens would love to trade with them. Of course, the schedule changes for these preteens a year or two later anyway in middle school but, at that point, fewer kids have to take the long bus ride home and many of their bodies are shifting already to the adolescent body rhythmns.
I wonder how attendance is doing over at the 4/5 Academy? I’m hearing that these kids are not having trouble getting to the bustop on time even though they are picked up ~45 minutes before school starts. Their bodies are probably loving the fact that they don’t have to catch the bus until around when they used to have to be in their seats at school. So I’m guessing that tardiness is down at the 4/5. Unfortunately, tardiness is probably a more serious issue with more consequences for high school students for whom every concept missed, assignment late, grade lowered is on their permanent record. I’d rather they were practicing punctuality in the morning at the 4/5 or middle school level than the high school level.
I am not surprised that the transition to this new schedule has been bumpy because it never seemed to have a clear logic or rationale. I’m not necessarily saying to back up and change it immediately because rapid oscillations in schedule from year to year will only confuse us hapless families even more. But whatever happens next–keeping this schedule, tweaking it, or going back to the old schedule, I hope more careful, stepwise thought will go into with plenty of SLT, high school student, teacher, and parent input. It’s August now so there’s plenty of time to start those discussions and avoid having to claim a lack of time next spring.
I couldn’t agree more Special K, and I’m deeply troubled by a couple aspects of the way this is playing out going forward. It is disappointing that particularly during a time of double transition; the start of a new school year AND the imposition of a new start time, that the decision has been made to be harsh with these kids. Tonewise, this start is neither an inviting nor nor accepting one, and that’s a pity.
Keeping in mind that any number of realms (academics, athletics, activities, social life) all comprise a student’s school life, I fear that not only are kids missing class for being late, but that they are being held up to ridicule as the stand in the line for being late. The stigma associated with being publicly cordoned off like this cannot, in my opinion, be discounted. I can tell you that it could lead to a cycle of repeat “offense” and a decline in self-esteem that would reinforce the idea that the kids have somehow failed because of an arbitrary clock-based decision. I hope that going forward we can get more input from all involved so that the final decision can reflect how the community truly feels about this issue.
I also wonder what message this rigid policy is sending to the kids. I’m not sure we can count on a system that is so inflexible and pedantic to produce creative thinkers. Whereas we can all agree that our kids need to learn to think creatively and to appreciate the diversity of ways that our students think and create and learn, I’m wondering if this action reinforces a worldview based on “drawing inside the lines” and simply regurgitating learned trivia. I’m hearing that some kids feel the latter is prioritized already.
Are you serious Golazo? Perhaps they should stop giving grades or having a standard curriculum? This is not a big deal. The students are required to be there at a certain time and they should be held accountable for that. The teachers and administrators are. It’s how the real world works. I am not sure it will infilict some sort of long standing trauma. They are being written up for being tardy, not for wearing ugly shorts or having bad hair. We need to stop pampering the kids and enabiling trophy generations. There are rules and social contracts – those who are late not only could impact their learning, but also that of others. This is not a free for all society, although I did read that some Company is building islands in International water just for those who feel too constricted by things like laws, rules, policies, contracts, accountabilities, deadlines, schedules. etc.
+1,000
+5,000. I laughed.
The “island”, it is an idea called “sea steading.” It does not affect anyone in the US, it is essentially its own self contained “country” of sorts on a man-made barge of sorts that will be eco friendly, and upholds libertarian principles of self reliance and independence. It isn’t for me, but I think it’s brilliant. A group of like-minded individuals want to lead their lives their way, they find new territory without a revolution, coup, taking other peoples’ land, deaths, imposing their will, etc. It would be a speck in the ocean, won’t affect anyone on land – they will have eco-friendly solutions for power, waste disposal- i.e. solar, wind, and everyone wins. One goal is to have one off the coast of San Fran in about a year that would be an office park of sorts with contracts made and enforced there with residential to follow. http://seasteading.org. It is just the opposite of no accountability – you hold your own or you leave. You don’t have to go there, and you can always leave if you want or need to.
Thank you for that reply. I had been left speechless by Golazo’s post.
+1,000,000!
My post was in reply to G Mel. Don’t know what happened.
FWIW, my son got his first tardy slip in years, and I can tell you, it make a big impression. He was upset, and he is determined not to be late again. I view those tardy slips as a boost to parents who want their children to be punctual. If they AREN’T enforced, students don’t really care if they get there on time.
My 4-5er is getting off the bus at 4:10 with half her homework done on the bus. She is having time for both playing outside with a friend and doing homework with no problem. My middleschooler, on the other hand, is getting home later because he chooses to socialize for a while instead of coming straight home.
If any changes to the bell schedule do happen I hope they are announced before after school care enrollment deadlines.
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. And keep your eye-yi-yi-yi on the sparrow.
+1
LOL! I wish I’d seen this before I posted– I woulda just done a “+1″…
School start times argument aside (all good points above)…
The 770 other kids seem to have no trouble making it to school on time (including the many who walk just under a mile to get here). School starts at 8am. The doors open at 7:50am. Their “real world” is just around the corner and kids in high school need to learn to be on time and accountable for their actions. No excuses. Grow up and be on time.
I graduated 20+ years ago and I still don’t like to think of myself as living in the real world. Yes, I’m in denial.
Dude, you tool around on a scouter and drink crap beer–you are not living in the real world.
(I reread this and for the life of me cannot figure out what a scouter is.)
At least you can blame the typo on some fancy pants Belgium Dubbel.
Perhaps, usually that’d be the Trippel, but that one was due to the Torpedo.
Great life skill to teach them, it is rampant (being late) in our world these day’s, not sure why it so hard to be on time (which typically means 5-10 minutes early) . Loud applause!!!!!
Well working for a company where we are hiring Gen Y’rs – I think this is a fabulous idea. Young workers have no concept of being on time for things. When trying to tell someone they HAD to be at work on time – they told me “well being on time isn’t important to me”. Better they learn some responsibility now.
The problem, though, is that any lessons learned about tardiness in high school are likely to be forgotten in college. Tardiness is pretty much accepted in college classes, to the point that 5-10 minutes late is considered on time.
And classes starting before 10 AM are not common in most non-commuter colleges with the exception of science courses with labs.
Uh, at at the schools I attended. I just tried not to schedule classes until after 10!
Not in my classes.
Ha! Lilly, when your Gen Yners come in to work crying about their missing paycheck, you can respond with, “your rent and utilities and $5 lattes aren’t that important to me…”
Again, I think issues are getting confounded. I count at least four issues:
– Is an early start time for the high schoolers good for adolescent biorhythms and learning?
– What is the effect of late afternoon bus drop-off for the 4/5ers?
– The importance of learning punctuality (regardless of start time)
– How should tardy students be handled (regardless of the start time)?
Karass,
I think you’re right things are getting a little mixed up….
– Is an early start time for the high schoolers good for adolescent biorhythms and learning?
it’s important to learn how to be online, unless you live in virtually any other country in the world.
– What is the effect of late afternoon bus drop-off for the 4/5ers?
stand in line, get the note, get with the program. bummer dude.
– The importance of learning punctuality (regardless of start time)
I remember paying quarter to get my biorhythm from the cool computer when I was in high school. (http://www.onthewww.com/gamesrus/Bio.jpg)
– How should tardy students be handled (regardless of the start time)?
They are missing some playtime, but riding bikes beats the buss and he gets a little bit of a workout along the way.
Mountain out of mole hill.
Nobody is working on a dissertation here with another flimsy proposal about time of day and performance and rules and consequences and emotional damage. The kids have to be at school. Not something new in our world! Those who don’t respect (agree with?) the time frame will either be late or check out early, whatever matches the time of day they least like being there because other life “stuff” holds more importance for them or their drivers/parental authority.
Puleeeeeze let it go!!!
+1!!!! Sheesh!
Sounds pretty great to me.
Oh, great Caesar’s ghost! The bell schedule is what it is, and if a child isn’t there before 8:00 am, then s/he is tardy, period. S/he isn’t being executed at sunrise in the public square, s/he’s simply being required to accept the school’s consequences of being late. DEAL WITH IT, helicopter parents– these are HIGH SCHOOLERS! Better yet, give your child the heads-up that you expect him/her to be on time or deal with those consequences, and I guarantee you there won’t be any lasting trauma or other irreversible negative effects on his/her tender little psyche. (If there is, then you’re not doing your job as a parent.)
Every year, I have to interview candidates for summer clerks, and I can spot the kids with helicopter parents within 3 minutes of talking with them. Best believe that they do not receive offers of employment with my agency, because supervising an immature young adult with an overinflated sense of self-worth and entitlement is way more trouble than it’s worth, and never yields satisfactory work product. So, go ahead, hoverers– keep on teaching your kids to believe that the rules you & they don’t like shouldn’t have to apply to them, because it helps me weed out the wheat from the chaff!
Thank you! I wouldn’t have been so eloquent. There’s not a place in the City more than a mile and a quarter from the high school so don’t use the bus as an excuse. In the words of the CCP Games anthem, HTFU. (That goes for the parents too!)
Well said.
Ceasar’s ghost can stay in his grave: our problem seems to be from having the opposite of chopper parents whose kids are anally on time with their calculator firmly fixed to their belt. If the queue at the tardy desk is any indication, we appear to be a city of slacker parents.
You’re right, though, that kids need to be on time even if It’s a bitch. It’s also a good lesson to learn that folks in charge can create logically challenged rules. Even worse, another lesson is that you can suffer serious consequences for not obeying nonsensical rules, notwithstanding the lack of reasoning for the rule. We all have worked at one time or another for bosses or in places where idiocy reigns and office rules are perfectly designed to demotivate workers. Learning how to deal with those situations — with constructive efforts at achieving change, not just attitude — is a good lesson.
One more problem I’ve heard is that at least one part of the high school complex has no bells in it. Kids are dismissed from classes in this area late. Teachers can give the kids a pass to get to their next class, but the school requires the kids to take that pass to the main office to have a new pass issued from the front office. As a result, a two-minute late arrival becomes more than 10 minutes. As someone pointed out, for a student in high school, miss a minute in class and you can miss a lot. As a former teacher of American Literature, Trigonometry and Economics, I can tell you late arrivals is a real disruption for instruction.
The “helicopter parents” remarks are directed at the folks complaining that the way the school handles tardiness is going to have a detrimental effect on the kids “forced to stand in a long line” to get a tardy slip. DHS’s purported lack of a functioning bell system in certain parts of the school has no bearing on the requirement that students get there on time before school starts. While I agree that late arrivals to classes are disruptive, I’m not sure what that has to do with the beginning of the school day itself (students don’t need a bell to tell them they’re late for homeroom– they know when they’re supposed to be there 1st thing in the morning). I’m afraid Caesar’s ghost still has much to lament on the helicopter parent/overwrought reactions front when it comes to CSD & its bell schedules.
+1 AGAIN!!!
So, what are the consequences of receiving a tardy slip?
I don’t know. But according to the first comment, five = something permanent on your record. I have no idea if that’s five a marking period, five a year, or five for all of high school.
My solution for a 5th grader who thought he could bike from Oakhurst to Glennwood in under 15 minutes was to require he stay after school for 30 minutes to help his teacher. He wasted the teacher’s time by being late and paid it back at the end of the day. Interestingly enough, he never was tardy after we put together this plan. Seems like a better solution to me than a piece of paper and we could cut down on janitorial costs at the same time.
Just spoke to a real live high schooler, vs. us pseudo-adolescents, and was told that the tardy notes are a southside, not northside problem. Evidently the new school schedule doesn’t jive well with the train schedule. So now teens crossing the tracks to the high school may be delayed for 15 minutes while they wait for the train to cross. By the time it crosses, they are late. Evidently the train wasn’t a problem last year because it came early enough that, even if one was delayed for 15 minutes at the crossing, there was still plenty of time to make it to school.
That should have been a problem for one day. For those that walk, there’s a tunnel less than 330 yards from the school. For those that drive, there’s 3 crossings not at grade.
That’s BS. The trains do not run on a fixed schedule and haven’t for many years. They run within 2 hour or so windows, so there is no set time when the trains come through. And, the delays are never 15 minutes – maybe 5.
Not always. Remember the train yard is nearby so, in my experience, the inbound trains can be very slow at times. Actually, the outbound trains can be slow at time too — I suspect that is when the train folks are adding cars to the end of the line.
I’ve even encountered trains completely stopping at the crossings for 5, 10, 15 minutes — but that’s usually past the East Lake MARTA station.
There are crossing guards at both McDonough and Atlanta Ave – ask them how many students are being held up by the trains.
And, any train heading east already has its full load – they’re not adding cars. It’s just getting up speed. Most of the time they are doing 30 or 35 by the time they get to Decatur. Inbound, they are conscious of blocking streets, so they will stop short up by Candler St whenever possible.
Sounds like a good idea to ask the crossing guards. None of us on this blog are there to see what’s really happening. And/or, if the tardy lines are really extending out of the high school, it ought to be easy to ask the students themselves. Another point from the real live high schooler (who has never been late by report) that I forgot to mention is that it’s not just tardy kids who are stuck in that line. Students with legitimate excused late arrivals, e.g. they had a dentist appt. scheduled early so they wouldn’t miss much class or whatever, also are held up by the long lines, sometimes missing the entire first period (not a good idea given our math scores). And there’s so many in the line that things get mixed up and students are getting marked tardy on Campus Portal even if they had a valid, legally-excused, late arrival.
But the tardy line may have been resolved by now. That’s what I love about DM. On-line personas may get all frustrated with one another but often things get fixed. And one issue mentioned results in related issues coming to light e.g. that folks are having trouble with having CHECLC starting at the same time as the elementary schools.
Once the kids realize the school means business about tardies the lines will dwindle. I’m in full support of strict tardy policies — kids coming to class late can be very disruptive and not to mention the material said student misses. A lot can be covered in a class in 15 minutes. We can’t allow kids to set what time they’ll roll in, we have to try to get them there on time for their own benefit.
High school needs to start early because of kids staying late for sports and other clubs. High schools have so many more after school activities than elementary and middle and they need to get the kids in and out of those at a reasonable time.
I missed tha bus…and it is somethin I will never ever ever do again!
I think the real problems are not the high schoolers- I mean 8 am?? Get over it. However, I think consideration may not have been given to parents with kids in preK at CHECHLC and kids at a K-3. I know parents that are literally spinning cartwheels and engaging in death matches to get from College Heights to Clairemont since both schools dismiss AT THE SAME TIME! These are little kids so it’s not really the same as high schoolers. One tiny delay can upset the very delicate balance of the wackadoodle schedule they’ve had to manipulate. It’s something else!
Concerned parents should let their SLTs (or whatever the CHECLC equivalent is) know about this and ask that it be put on the agenda.
The high school students need to be at school on time, and the parents need to help them in whatever way they can to make sure they get to school on time. When these kids graduate, they will either have 1) a job, where they will have to be on time or risk getting fired or 2) a college class schedule, where they will have to attend class and do homework. Some students will have a job and a college class schedule. And if they decide to go into the military, well…the drill instructor won’t tolerate tardiness!
If I may; this is somewhat timely and relevant.
http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/archive/2011/08/14
Just got back from “Senior Night” at DHS.
The counselors are instructing parents / guardians to NOT do the college application for their child. You can help and guide but THE STUDENT needs to learn about how to cope with life.
If they cannot get to school on time, how are they going to get into college? Time managment and learning to set an alarm clock are part of life’s little skill set.
Having done many years of rotating shift work, I think I can count the number of times I was late to work on two hands (been working for 20+ years). The biorhythm theory, while interesting, just makes a victim out of a poor planner.
Wow. That sounded harsh. It’s like I’ve turned into my parents or something……
+1 for a third time.
Peace out!
“Peace out?”
The 90’s called, and they want their phrase back.
Sorry, just teasing. Couldn’t help myself.
This policy helps to introduce our kidlings to government bureaucracy: You’re late . . . go stand in line for 20 minutes. It’s an important life lesson.
Who ever thought that the End of Days would begin with a tardy slip. Mark my words ye brethren, next shall be the over-stocked chick’n nibblets added to every item on the school lunch menu, all pupils being required to memorize dates for history exams…..oh and then all that moon turning blood red and the seas boiling and stuff.
I am happy and proud to say that my high schooler is getting herself up at 6:15 and leaving the house by 7 so she can walk the 1.5 miles to school and she hasn’t been late yet! After all my complaining about the new bell schedule!
This is pretty funny. You’re late for class. So, your punishment for missing class is to stand in line to…wait for it…miss more class. Priceless!
@CB:
Priceless? I think not—that is our tax dollars going down the drain. A pretty high price too.
But seriously folks, DHS admin goes through a couple of weeks of school without figuring out that they need to deploy some extra help to the attendance office in the mornings? You’d think that the sight of lines of kids would be a clue that somebody needs to apply some Six-Sigma-Management-Skills to the situation.
The Asst. Superintendant’s statement about a “streamlined process” seems curious. My darling child has a buddy who works in the attendance office. The buddy says that on Wednesday morning they handed out 67 tardy slips. Now maybe the buddy miscounted and they only handed out 60, but still that doesn’t sound too streamlined.
My darling child also reports that there are still kids missing most of first period while waiting in the attendance office. And just so you know, that class is an AP class, populated with kids who have built a good record of performance and attendance.
Just playing devil’s advocate here… Kids in AP classes are presumably academically motivated, right? Which means that missing the class is counter productive to what they’re trying to accomplish. Which puts a burden on them to catch up with the material.
Maybe I’m missing something, but that sounds like a good incentive to be on time next time. Now, I’m not advocating for inefficiency, but I see no point in investing a lot of energy to ensure the burden of their infraction is somehow less trying on their delicate sensibilities. Something tells me they’ll survive. Maybe even learn an everyday skill along the way.
As my grandmother used to say: “If you’re on time, you’re late.” School started almost three weeks ago. Those who care should have figured it out and adjusted accordingly.
your grandmother sounds like a very wise woman!
Aggie – If they were on time, they wouldn’t be missing any of the class.
“Streamlined process” in a bureaucracy, sounds good, has no meaning.
AnotherRick:
You’re right. It was a case of temporary insanity to look for efficiency in a bureaucracy. I’ll up my meds.
Hmm, 67 out of 933 or 7% of students were tardy, a higher percentage if you remove from the denominator students who were at home sick or otherwise legitimately not trying to get to school. What was the average daily percentage in the previous few years? Currently at the middle school? Any pattern to the 7%? Part of town walking from? New ninth graders? Seniors with senioritis already? Students who tended to be late last year?
Inquiring parental minds want to know. (Plus we’ll check Parent Portal but it’s not always up to date).
We made enquiries of the buddy who works in the attendance office. Today’s tardy count was “only” 42.
It has been overwhelmingly kids who live on the south side of the tracks. The vast majority have been upperclassmen who drive, some of whom are dropping off younger siblings at 4/5 and Renfro before coming to DHS.
One thing for sure–nobody should schedule their kids’ doc/dentist appointments before school until DHS redeploys a couple of folks to work the attendance office at 8:00.
Re doctor’s appointments.: Yes. We’ve always scheduled real early AM dentist appointments for our children because the office is nearby and we can minimize the amount of class missed. But it sounds like DHS students would miss less class by leaving a little early at the end of the day when there’s no line to leave school early for an excused absence. Or is there?
sheesh! Just tell your kids to be on time!
That was implied sarcasm. they teach it in school.
That does sound counterproductive. Can’t the teachers give out tardy slips at the end of the period and then give a list to the attendance office after that class is over? That way kids who are late don’t miss even more time getting a tardy slip. Maybe I’m missing something, but it just seems like a really easy problem to fix.
I think more than just life lessons rides on the tardy slips:
– Maybe the state keeps track of tardiness like it keeps track of certain disciplinary actions and absences.
– For all I know, funding may be attached to attendance so the school or CSD has to keep careful track.
– Evidently a certain amount of tardiness is documented on a student’s permanent record so the school has to avoid complaints of unfairness–e.g. that some teachers are softies and let students arrive late and others are strict.
– Teachers are already overburdened with administrative stuff and probably don’t want to take on the role of tardy slip agents.
But I have to admit that a tardy slip process that doubles the amount of time that one is tardy has a Woody Allenesque feel to it. Maybe one of our “Eye on the Street” photos could document either the presence or absence of a tardy line!
Woke up this mornin’
Clock said I was late for school
Teacher told me “that’s not cool”
Gotta put my shirt and pants on
Flew down the front stair
Wet my fingers and slicked my hair
Elbowed grandma passing by
Her face went into a pie
If I’m late there’s misery
I won’t be up on history
I’ll be in the English grammar slammer
And I got a C
Got a warning last semester
Told my mom and that depressed her
Promised dad I won’t be late, so gotta accelerate,let’s go!
If I may, I this is a good one as well:
Damn! Oversleeping again
Damn! I can’t believe I did it once again
I can make it in time
if I jump out of bed
if I skip to wear clothes
and get running instead
if I get on my feet
if I skip to hit snooze
if I don’t care to eat
and get running instead
I can make it in time
Been oversleeping on Monday
I don’t care let’s pretend that it’s Sunday
Somebody spoke and I went into a dream…
@Lyrics Only Guy: Gotta love Steve Martin’s “The Crow”!
Plink, plink, plink.
Rather than sending kids to the office, why don’t they simply “dock” grades like they do in some college classes?
Seems like a rather passive response. A tardy slip and a date with the attendance office is more effective. Kids don’t like being embarassed in front of their friends.
Maybe this is all healthy. Adolescents need things like a dysfunctional “tardy line” to inspire satire, righteous indignation, and generational unity. The “tardy line” is probably great fodder for the class comedians, budding literary satirists, and teen comedy group. Tardy line flash mob?
+1
Maybe I’ll just shut my mouth because I have a few choice words for your helicopter parents….you can’t control everything in your kid’s life, so just deal with it.
So how do we engage the high school students who really know what’s going on in this discussion? Evidently they are not posting on DM since it’s only us oldsters arguing amongst our online personas about whether this is about life lessons, tardy line dysfunction, and/or the way CSD alters its responses to schedule issues. (And probably all are true.) Is DM on facebook? Would Twitter reach them better? Or some technology I don’t understand yet. Do we have to scan some barcode into a smartphone?
DHS has always had lots of tardy students, some who were tardy on a regular basis. Trains, walking,sibling drop-offs, new schedule, whatever–these kids have to learn they must make getting to school (or later, work) on time a priority. Consequences teach lessons and sometimes they’re unpleasant but that is life.
Just FYI that I’m not one of the parents who notified DM about the tardy line; I’d never heard of it. And I’m all for life lessons about being on time although I’m not sure that today’s youth are any more in need of instruction than any previous generation. They are actually fairly compliant as a group from what I can discern, even given flash mobs. But I was interested in whether the tardy line was worse than usual and why, whether the process of checking in students was dysfunctional compared to usual, and/or whether the CSD response was consistent with its previous responses. We can all agree to disagree, I hope, on this blog; personal attacks are what’s forbidden.
When I wake up in the morning
And the ‘larm gives out a warning
I don’t think I’ll ever make it on time
By the time I grab my books,
And I give myself a look,
I’m at the corner just in time to see the bus fly by
It’s alright ”cause I’m saved by the bell (4x)
If the teacher pops a test,
I know I’m in a mess,
And my dog ate all my homework last night,
Ridin’ low in my chair,
She won’t know that I’m there,
If I can hand it in tomorrow, it’ll be all right!
It’s alright, ”cause I’m saved by the bell (4x)
– (Formerly) Soon to be Neighbor — trying out my new moniker for the first time.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE your new name!!! Thanks for the big laugh!!! :0)
LMAO! Can we call you “RevNegHo” for short? Wait…that doesn’t sound right, does it? How ’bout just “RevNeg”? Or even better: “Unruly Brood”?